Getting a bit concerned about type of signings!

I know it's early days so far but I hope we don't go down the route of getting a dozen nobodys in this summer it's too much of a gamble after last season - with the youth in the squad now I'd rather see 4 or 5 senior pros come in to bring the lads on, I think a squad of 22 with a mix of youth and experience would be better than a squad of 32 misfits myself. With the savings made on trimming a squad we could afford to maybe offer a couple that bit xtra to attract quality.

I'd deffo like to see John O Sullivan return but ive a feeling its a no go with the signing of Marley Watkins. Any other thoughts or suggestions ?

 

Give me 'nobodies' & 'unknowns' such as Davies, Hourihane, Berry, Winnall, Williams, Scowen, O'Sullivan and (hopefully) Roberts & Watkins every time, as opposed to the well known and highly 'successful' Midos, Jennings', Frimpongs, Litas & Treacys of this world.

 

Not sure you can call Watkins a nobody, purely based on the fact you may not have heard of him. Bit harsh on the lad that. Roberts as well is highly regarded in the game and was being looked at by plenty of Championship clubs. I'd rather take young and hungry lads than overpaid mercenaries like we've had under previous regimes. Question is Scowan or Frimpong? Winnall or Gary O Connor? Hourihane or Woods?

Oh and for the millionth and last time, JOS isn't coming back. He's wanted at Blackburn.

 

I wouldn't say it's a no go.

We need at least 3 wingers at the club and we currently only have one.

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Did you mean that as a reply to me, seeing as I was saying the same thing?

 

I think Marley Watkins will be a top signing. At times, he's pissed all over the Scottish Premier League and happy to sign him.

I'm a bit confused with the Marc Roberts signing. I personally think it's going to take a lot for him to become a League 1 player, never mind playing for somebody who hopes to challenge at the right end of the table. Hopefully we bring in another centre half to play alongside Nyatanga if Johnson is wanting to play Holgate at right back and Roberts as a squad player.

 

Although we signed just a few experienced players last season, none of them really did too much of note. Turnbull was okay, not as good as Davies though, who is much younger. Ramage was steady but injury prone. Bailey started off okay but went off the cliff around Christmas time, and Leroy was dreadful. Give me a hungry conference player, wanting to impress over a journeyman looking for a last pay day, any day of the week.

As for Watkins, I know little of him either. But considering he's been at the top of the Scottish game for the past 2 seasons and allegedly turned down approaches from Celtic and Rangers, hardly suggests that he's an unknown. Give them, and the others a chance. Barring Fleetwood and I think Bury, nobody has signed more than 2 players yet. It's early days.

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I think your going to be very disappointed over the summer.

 

And Keith Treacy, I knew I'd forgotten one.

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Just because you haven't heard of them it doesn't make them a 'nobody'. I'm sure the club have done their homework and know what they're capbale of.

You could sign 5 conference players for less than the cost of one ex prem/championship player. It's more risky to sign one player on big wages than 5 on next to nothing. Previous expirence tells us that much.

 

^^^this^^^

 

The players u have quoted are the very ones that still need guidance and experience around them seeing as several of them were in and out all season and had the crowd on their backs for over half a season.

 

Im not talking about big wages its about getting the right type of players in - we were 25 goals short last season and probably 15 to 20 goals too high conceded. We had 42 players used last season and if we don't sign some proven experience I fear we will end up chopping & changing the kids in and out of position etc and may well end up dipping into the loan market even more again. Not ALL experienced players are mercenarys you know. Would be nice to get a Beckford type player in and play Winnall as a striker none of this midfield mullarkey!

 

Speaking to my maye Donny fan. Reckons there is very little difference in step up from conference to league1. To be fair they kept main of conferennce squad when they stormed up the league. Paul Green is key example. Lots of players have made transition and thrived, Jamie Vardy another good example.

 

still to be seen but we do need experienced players to mount a promotion push, or at least good league 1 operators who can step upto the championship if we made it.

 

The club's record, irrespective of the manager, since our last promotion of signing experienced, well known players has been more miss than hit. Personally, I'm sick of seeing the majority of these players (usually from the Premier League) bleed money from the club and produce little, if anything at all, on the pitch to justify their reputations and salary. I prefer the lesser known but hungrier, younger lads willing to grow and develop at Barnsley. I'd like us to bring in natural leaders, rather than someone simply for being well known and/or experienced. Others think differently, which is fair enough.
I have no problems with bringing in experienced players per se, but we as a club have to do a damn sight better when signing such individuals than we've done previously.

 

I reckon he's wrong and that there is a massive step between the conference and league one. There are exceptions to the rule but a squad full of conference players would not work. We highlighted the difference in the FA cup last season.

 

Well we hammered Burton and Chester should have beat us so not sure that statement adds up

 

But part of that was down to bad luck. We may just have got those 15 to 20 goals we needed had Williams not left, O'Sullivan signed when we were first interested or stayed longer than he did, or had Winnall not got injured. The same goes for goals conceded, we had a very disjointed back 4 for some time. Signing someone like Beckford (who we couldn't afford by the way) doesn't guarantee those goals.

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Chester never really looked like beating us, they played well but in the end I thought we were quite comfortable. The cup always throws up some of these displays where sides raise their game.

If a decent league one side was put in the conference for a season (as an experiment) I reckon they'd win over two thirds of their games and win the league with relative ease.