While I have no issues with respecting the dead, and what happened was truly awful, why does the fact that they were British make their deaths more deserving of a minutes silence than foreign people who die or are killed? And why do people murdered by an arsehole on a beach deserve a minutes silence more than any other innocent murder victim? I think my main point is that I don't like being told who and who isn't deserving of my sympathy or respect and don't like ranking people who I don't know
Over 400 muslims were murdered in the last few days by muslim terrorists in Nigeria. It's not on your main news channels though.
I observed a minutes silence, in Britain, as a mark of respect for my fellow Brits who were murdered in cold blood. I also have huge sympathy for the other nationalities that were killed. And also for the local people who will now suffer for a generation. Like I don't know those that died fighting for this country personally I still observe a minutes silence as a mark of respect. Each to their own. It's a very small symbolic gesture. It won't change anything but that's not what showing respect is about.
A terrible awful tragedy. not sure how it is related to showing respect to our fellow countrymen that died though. If you wish to support them, then aid organisations always looking for volunteers.
This is all getting too political, you need that total a*hole Kerravon from tykesmad to join in with this debate. :nails:
Of course they are. And I hope their countrymen show solidarity. Their are tragedies the world over. This one happened to effect people from our country. So we pay our respects. I work for a company where some of those killed worked. I don't know them. It's a big company. But it made me want to show my respect. You don't find it worthy to pay your respects to the dead of this event, that's your choice. I imagine you also don't wear a poppy or show respect on rememberence day. Because obviously that is not paying respect for every tragedy around the world. People are different.
These Muslim on Muslim atrocities are all over the news, every day if you read the news in any detail on the BBC website. Of course atrocities involving British nationals are going to be headline news in the UK but that doesn't mean there is an agenda.
My post was clearly in response to the OP. I didn't and won't participate in government instructed silences in cases such as this, government related atrocities. I can feel shock/anger/sadness/empathy/sympathy of my own volition. I'm not a robot. Night.
Like the Sikh dentist (and English national as you put it.. as though I'm supposed to care more, bizarrely), attacked with a machete in January by a white supremacist? That we didn't hear about until last week? Gi'or, Mario. I know you're Tory but **** me. When a few French folk were attacked this year by Muslims, it was 24/7 news, live.. 400 Muslims are slaughtered, and it's nowhere to be seen in the media. A lot of people are trying to cause a divide, to stir racial tension and hatred. You don't have to be political to see that mate. Come on.
No one is more deserving of your sympathy and no one is telling you otherwise. If an ex-Barnsley player/manager dies we might hold a minute's silence at Oakwell. Other clubs probably won't unless he was a significant figure in the world of football. Similarly, if an ex-Orient player/manager dies, they will morn that death at Brisbane Road, but probably not at Oakwell. We pay our respects to those close to us, but that doesn't mean either person is more deserving of your sympathies. Our lives are finite and relatively short. We do not have the time to stand in silence for everyone that dies. On a national scale, we mourn the deceased that share our nationality, not because their lives were worth more, but because the convention throughout the world is that we show respect for our own. Tunisians will pay respect to deceased Tunisians, Nigerians to deceased Nigerians and the British to deceased Britons. We all trust that the respective nations will make the required arrangements. They're not, but it was the scale of the bloodshed that is relevant here. You're not being asked to. Having said all that, the most pertinent points I've heard on this issue came from Russell Brand and in my opinion he showed no disrespect what so ever. If I'm ever killed in a terrorist atrocity, I hope I have someone like that speaking up for me. I wouldn't want people standing in silence mourning my death, I'd want them to be proactive in an attempt to prevent what happened to me happening to someone else. The only way to do that is to stop arming nations on the human rights abuse list and to stop bombing innocents back in to the stone age. If people did that, my death might be worth something. A minute's silence followed by us continuing with our appalling foreign policy would render my death pointless.
