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  1. John Peachy

    John Peachy Well-Known Member

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    Why not?

    The only credible alternative for me is Burnham, but only if he recognises Mr Corbyn's support & is willing to promise him a cabinet position if he wins. (Housing minister being the obvious one).

    In my opinion a Burnham / Corbyn type Labour party would be a real choice to the shower of **** we have at the minute.

    I'd have liked to see a female leader, but Cooper & Kendal have already made their positions untenable:

    I quote (BBC):

    "The Labour Party could end up splitting if Jeremy Corbyn is elected leader", Yvette Cooper has claimed.

    Liz Kendall today revealed she is ready to join forces with Chuka Umunna and Tristram Hunt to campaign for moderniser policies if Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour’s leadership. So much for "collective cabinet responsibility".

    That shows no respect for rival candidates / democracy or anything else. If Corbyn is elected they should be kicked out of the party or recant.
     
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    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Attractive though some of Corbyn's arguments are, you must know in your heart that Labour would never ever be elected in this country with him at the helm. The Labour Party WILL split if Corbyn is elected because those who wish to see the party elected again will not wish to go down with the ship. I grant you that the other three candidates are hardly dripping with charisma, but I'm afraid I can't really see Corbyn as another Clement Attlee.
     
  3. Wes

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    O i really do hope Corbyn wins!
     
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    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Are you a Tory, Westie?
     
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    Not sure why people think a left leaning stance would make Labour unelectable (other than the right wing press). It's served the SNP well recently as well as parties in Greece, France and Spain.
     
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    That's a good point Orsenkaht, the party will indeed most probably split, half remaining left wing Labour, the other half Liberal Labour or maybe called the Blair Labour Party. If such an event happens then it's a clear path for the Conservatives to govern for a complete generation. Becomes a one party state in Scotland and a different one party state in the rest.
     
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    Burnham has already stated that he would work with Corbyn.
     
  8. Wes

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    How on earth has it served Greece, France and Spain well? And when it comes to Greece, left or right wing politics can't help them!

    More importantly, 3pts tomorrow is a must :)
     
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    Don't you mean Blair's real tory party , cos that's all he was ...
     
  10. ark

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    Labour's electoral high point was 1997. Everyone forgets now that they were elected on a primarily left wing platform. There were elements of what became the Blairite ideology but the move to the centre occured over time. And Labour have never been as successful in an election since 1997. It's revisionist to state that Labour can't get elected on a left message, it ignores the journey to the centre Labour took after that point and the votes they lost with it.
     
  11. North Yorks Red

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    Talking to people outside natural Labour stronholds

    even some natural Tory supporters are worried that Corbyn will get in because they see it as the end of any credible opposition party which would mean that the Tories could do some serious long term planning.
    Any government needs a strong opposition and believe outside old school Labour voters the majority of people that I have spoken to see Corbyn as an unelectable idealist
     
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    Blabour
     
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    Blair's last shot in 2005 produced a 65 seat majority. Cameron would have killed for that in May.
     
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    You trust what any politition says?
     
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    Thee watch!
     
  16. ark

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    But what was the majority in 1997?
     
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    pingiskola Well-Known Member

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    Bory ...
     
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    shame john smith died as he was a good leader and would have made a good prime minister
     
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    Corbyn for me.............

    There needs to be a clear distinction between Labour and the Tories

    Corbyn is the only candidate prepared to do this - hope he succeeds in getting more of the younger generation politically active.
     

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