At the risk of being banned again the buck stops at Mr Crynes door I'm afraid

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  1. stairfoot.red

    stairfoot.red Well-Known Member

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    Before his supporters start yes I get it he saved the club. But despite him supposedly ploughing millions of pounds into the club we are exactly where we were a decade or so ago when he took over a poor mid table L1 club and the reason is a lot of his money has gone on removing his mistakes in the form of compensation for sacked managers and paying of contracts of the dross they've signed to play for us. People say Mr Cryne can not be criticised because of all of his money he's invested in the club. I disagree I think he can and should be criticised because it's his stewardship of the club that's caused him to have to invest (waste) the money. His ineptitude in appointing managers then firing them has led to relegation failure to gain promotion back to the Championship and falling crowds causing a growing sense of fan base disaffection with the club.
    I think he's right Johnson should be his last appointment at the club and if Johnson goes so should Cryne at least in a decision making capacity anyway. Will it happen probably not because we are like a lot of other clubs we live or die at the whim of a rich man. A lot of people will disagree with me and that's fine but I think an awful lot of people are starting to think the same way has me.
     
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    It's easy to criticise, and some of it may be valid, but at the end of the day no one else has come forward to put their money where their mouth is.
    You can't tell me PC has robbed the club like so many other owners in football, everything may not be exactly what we want or where we'd like to be, but at the end of the day we're still in business without the embarrassment that so many clubs have suffered with particularly foreign ownership.
    We as fans have no idea of the amount of money required to keep a club going never mind make it successful, I have a friend who is a Football accountant (not at BFC) he has a saying, 'the easiest way to become a millionaire, is to be a billionaire and buy a football club'.
     
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    We have one of the largest revenues in the league according to ben mansford, we also have significant opportunities to increase that revenue so why do we need money pumping in? We need better financial management
     
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    We hopefully are being financially managed well.. certainly compared to many other clubs, but that doesn't always equate to success on the field...look at Arsenal.
     
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    How can we be being financially managed well when we are told we have one of the highest revenues yet are also told we need millions pumping in by Patrick cryne? Having to have continual capital investment by the owner to break even surely has to be bad financial management
     
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    You'd have to examine and understand the accounts to know how much PC has put in or continues to put in. He's undoubtedly put the money in when necessary,
    We may well not have a club at all the way things were going a few years ago.
     
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    Best get thi cheque book art then lad.....
     
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    Can only go on what we've been told and that is that we rely in handouts every year
     
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    This has and will always fathom me - it probably deserves a thread on its own, but here goes!

    Would PC let DW host interviews for the new Chief Exec of his company?
    Would Maurice let LJ select his new partner in his law firm?
    Would Ben ask Keef of Flickers advise when looking for a new Footy Agent associate?!?!?
    Would Barry Taylor....... let's leave it

    NO! Cos DW knows nowt about supplying medical stuff, LJ isn't a qualified lawyer and the other 2 are buffoons and would probably employ Etuhu, Dawson or Perkins anyway! Let's not talk about Baz.

    PCs money is brill, I love him for that. He's made millions from been an astute business man. But that been said, why on earth would your selection committee for choosing a new 'head coach' or manager of a professional football team consist of a lawyer, a former agent, a medical supplier and a biscuit guru? It has and always will baffle me.

    A selection committee with 0 mins of pro football between them! For a small fee I'm sure some acclaimed ex reds who hold the club dearly would advise on a panel to suss out who they think is best suited. Eric could sniff out a bull shitter from 8 miles!

    At least Louis Walsh has a CV of successful boy bands to look back on. Have any of the above?!?!?
     
  10. Dr Zazlos

    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    A brave thread and sadly accurate one.

    Without him there would be no BFC and i'm sure everyone will be eternally grateful for his intervention at a very difficult period the club was at.

    The club may be on a sound financial footing at this present moment in time, Well Done, but on the playing side of the equation we are no further forward than we were 5 years ago.

    Mr Needham aka Nudger regularly reminds us that PC is not the man to lead the club forward.

    Sadly i am coming round to his way of thinking on this issue.
     
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    I hope we don't get any of the "Stones" money for a while as I don't think we have anyone I would trust with it at the moment. My fear is it would be frittered away with nothing to show. If any money did appear I would recommend that Patrick pockets it all for now.
     
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    We would fritter it all away on even more dud loan signings!
     
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    The frustrating bit is we don't know if some of these loan signings are duds because they are not given a chance.
     
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    Just because we have one of the largest revenue streams (allegedly) doesn't mean its enough to buy players. Most clubs in this league pick up players on free. PC has put money in for signings. I don't think the players we have bought are poor in fact i think we have made decent signings. The problem now is we have gaps to fill in our goalscoring department where we simply aren't taking enough chances, experience and strength in midfield and left back / wing back.
     
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    We have made one or two decent signing but we have brought some real duds in as well.

    What happens when the loan signings all return to their parent clubs?

    Then we will be in more of a mess than we are at now.
     
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    I don't know if we do have gaps, reason being Johnson is stuck to picking the same old faces instead of tweaking the side to find the best setup. On paper Smith would be the player we would be looking at so why not try him?
     
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    Johnsons plan is to try and turn these loans into permanent signings. However he is going to have to make decisions weather to buy without seeing much game time.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    The signing of Smith is a strange one!

    Not started a game yet if my memory serves me correctly.

    Time for a start at Bradford me thinks unless he is cup tied
     
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    Which ones, because Crawley, Smith, Rothwell and Wilkinson don't play. Why would we try to make permanent signings out of players who cant get in the team?
     
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    Pearson may be one who we stand a chance with but as you have rightly stated the others are struggling for game time.
     

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