Now that they are in the modern computer age, they'll know exactly how many season ticket holders are not currently turning up, compared to how many normallly don't turn up and it will be that which will be making their arses twitch, not this thread.
Same here. They're past defending. I'm usually at 95% of home and away games, but my feelings towards the club at the minute, are just 'meh'.
Indeed. My view is the one I touched on above. The sacking of Danny Wilson killed my connection with the club. But it only started there. Because everything that has happened since has reinforced the fact that the club is dying. The appointment of a manager that most fans couldnt understand as he was 2 points above us at tge time and we were supposed to be doing so badly we had to sack the previous manager. The fact that he has since proved himself to be bang average at best. The frustration of feeling that we would be in a far better position had we kept Wilson, and the fact that we could have predicted that in March. The fact that there us a strong suspicion that people are messing in football matters who shouldn't be. The fact that we seem to piss money away and lose money every year even though there is nobody left who earns a dime and we have allegedly one the higher budgets in the division. I could go on. The whole place is riddled with something cancerous.
I genuinely believe the club made a major 'game changing' mistake by sacking Danny. It definitely broke the connection I had with the club and the appointment they made to replace Danny just rubbed salt in the wounds. As I said earlier today this was the first game I've missed through choice in years and by the looks of it there are many other long term fans feeling the same way.
It's the same in my house the kids used to not be able to wait for Saturday at oakwell but since the start of this season they hardly mention it I've been a pass holder for years same as my dad and brother and his kids. I've been to the Everton game only this year, my father has given up after 65 years of watching. The last ten years or so, the fa cup aside have been awful year on year what the hell is happening that's 9 of us slowly getting out of the habit. I fear for the future of my beloved club .
Couldn't agree more Mario. If my mate had chosen to stay at the coast today then i was very tempted to stay home and watch the rugby. I am now only really going for the 2 hours in the no7 before the game. I freely admit that i don't fully understand rugby union but i have got more enjoyment watching the world cup games than any barnsley game this season.
I thought the appointment of Danny was a bad decision. Not because I don't rate him, but it was a retrograde move. To me it proved the club lives in the past and that it seemed to be a decision to satisfy fans rather than what's right for the club. It was poor under him. Poor results, poor entertainment. Now it's getting worse. The youth policy is too blinkered. I fully support a youth policy but with balance, with experience and with something that gets us off our seats ( not just to leave early). We can't just blame LJ, the entire structure is wrong. An owner who has an exit plan but can't exit. He's done good for us and it's sad there aren't any interested suitors. The development of the infrastructure has been non existent. Now the product on the pitch is hard to watch. Instead of battling Barnsley we see ourselves capitulate easily, no movement and can't do the simple things right. I will see the season out and keep going. Away games are off my agenda right now. I will make my decision on what next at the end of this season. Reading this I guess it doesn't matter if Pat leaves and steps away from the clubs demise. Seems no one will miss us.
It feels to me like when one of your kids have been really, really naughty and done something you totally disaprove of, but you can't cast them aside becuase they are your flesh and blood. I hate myself for going these days, because, for the best part its nothing other than torture, but I can't turn my back and walk away, no matter how much my common sense tells me to.
There's loads like you now mate, I got fed up last season so I didn't renew this year and I really don't miss it one bit. LJ is negative and full of waffle, I will be surprised if he doesn't get the chop this week, he's driving true fans away from the club.
I know exactly what you mean. I missed the game today but I'll be back for the next home no matter how easy it would be to just call it a day on home games as well as away games. I don't know how long I can carry on like this, I'm really not sure if I can motivate myself unless something changes.
I honestly think this isn't just a problem with Barnsley FC, it's about football. We are told it's a business these days, big money, big wages etc and expensive tickets to boot. Treat people like customers, rather than loyal supporters and you reap what you sew. The connection goes. Ordinary working men and women can't afford to get in, the atmosphere changes. The player turn over becomes massive, no loyal, long serving players that supporters can get behind. No sense of community spirit, no sense of belonging. The football becomes sterile and predictable. Bradford City have tried to maintain it by lowering ticket prices. Fair play to them. Maybe that's the only thing that will work at Oakwell - just recognising what people are going through. Giving people something genuine to support, rather than lining the pockets of loan players. The reasons to keep going are dwindling fast, it's just not value for money any more. The sooner they wake up to that the better...
At 1:15 this afternoon I decided I couldn't face the drive from Leeds today and persuaded my 6yo daughter (for whom Oakwell trips are still exciting) that we were better off not going today. I've had a season ticket for the last 20 years, which included 9 years of 300 mile round trips from Buckingham, but today I just needed a break from it. The disturbing thing is reading how many others made the same decision today. I don't want to kill my daughter's passion for Barnsley in her first season as a ST holder so will be more selective in taking her as things stand. The bigger question is whether I'll feel any more motivated myself when the next home game rolls around. Worrying times. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Apart from the odd period of excitement, play-off wins, cup runs etc, the supporters have been watching a slow decline of BFC for nearly 15 years, on and off the pitch. If it wasn't for the interest of my son, and the good company who I go with, I'm not sure what I'd do. I'm bored. And it's painful, as a ST Holder for 25 years, to say it. I've never felt as distant from BFC as I do tonight, and its not just recent performances. Its been 10 years plus of been patronised, fobbed off, and watching various buffoons make same mistake after same mistake off the pitch. Mr Mansford is in no way more qualified to give an opinion about our club, its managers, and playing staff than any of us. He's just fortunate to have the authority. We are not fools. Today was topped off after the game, when I popped into the club shop and asked "Could you do me a gift voucher for £20 please?" For the 11 year old son of a friend as a birthday present. To be told, "we don't do them/don't have any, but closer to Christmas possibly." So I still have the cash.
Today was topped off after the game, when I popped into the club shop and asked "Could you do me a gift voucher for £20 please?" For the 11 year old son of a friend as a birthday present. To be told, "we don't do them/don't have any, but closer to Christmas possibly." So I still have the cash.[/QUOTE] Mate went in before midweek match as he needed some red socks as was laiking for the Fit Reds this morning. They had none in for size 9. So he asked if they'd be getting a delivery so he could pay and pick some up. They said not before Saturday. So he offered to pay anyway cos he'll be needing some again anyway later in season. Lad told him they'd not be ordering anymore full stop...... 13 games into season?!?!? Pmsl⚽️
Well I'd rather you believed me, mate, because I'm not a liar. I honestly wasn't interested. If I was, I'd have attended the game with the ticket I paid for. But I chose not to, because I get nothing out of attending other than seeing lads/lasses I like, and I can do that without attending a football game. Instead, I went to support the missus' lad playing football. I get something out of that. A feeling of pride, it matters to us. Right now, I feel anything but pride when I go to Oakwell.
Got to admit I was sat watching and I wasn't arsed really either way. W L or D. At the back of my mind I was hoping we didn't equalise as I'd see that as 'papering over the cracks'. Listen, I don't want be one of the 'I'm happy if we lose' brigade who thrive on it. But I've just sensed sommet that's not sitting right about the whole situation. I didn't want DW to go, before anyone says it, it's nowt to do with sentimentality, it could have been anyone in charge under the circumstances. But then we're here again. Faced with a similar dilemma now again but I'm sure I've never felt so ......... Not bothered Meh Disinterested Apathetic Distant Bored Unenthusiastic Mundane As I do now
Ah well, we're all pissed off with it. I have the dubious fame of appearing in the video in the 'Experience Barnsley' museum at the the town hall. I only say one word and that is 'Pride' and as you, I don't feel any right now. It hurts. By the way, thanks for being my mate.