Subjective Opinion: Players Who Are Simply Not Good Enough

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    In no way against these guys on a personal level but I, like others pay for them through my ST.

    Paul Digby: Enough evidence to know now that he hasn't got it in him to be a professional footballer.

    Marley Watkins: Is he a striker? Is he a winger? Can he do anything outside of the Porridge and Bagpipes League? No. Kane Hemmings revisited.

    Kadeem Harris: Shows the occasional bit of pace, but no delivery skills whatever, which rather negates the point of playing him.

    Lewin Nyatanga: Too many errors demonstrate why he hasn't cut it elsewhere. Taking the captaincy off him spoke volumes.

    Sam Winnall: Unable to have an effect on games. The current system doesn't help him, but the impression is growing that he's a good League Two striker, but not up to League One.

    Conor Wilkinson: Need I say more?

    There are a few more about whom the jury is out. But if the above players turned out for the opposition, we'd not look twice at them. Hopefully Ryan Williams will come good at some point, but at present he's holding out for the Phil Gridelet Trophy.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Alfie Mawson. We were given the impression we were signing the fourth division's Baresi. He's barely Mike Flynn.
     
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    Watkins has been our best player but i guess assists and goals aren't liked here, because he doesnt fly into tackles like Scowen.

    But agree with some, since Winnalls injury, he hasn't been as good, scoring goals but lost his work rate and pace.

    Kadeem Harris on his day is a world beater but has no end product, can't believe some people prefer him over O'Sullivan.

    Nyatanga, average, prone to mistakes but can be good for our set pieces and sometimes has some good tackles in him.

    Wilkinson.... Well...

    No comment on Digby
     
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    What an awful thread. I don't buy into this 'I spend money so I can slag them off' business. I spend a couple of hundred quid every month at Morrisons but I don't post threads about people who work there calling them ****. I don't care how much they get paid either, they're still people, no-one would turn down money if they were offered it by their bosses.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    The jury is still out with Watkins for me.

    Certainly worth persevering with
     
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    Paul Digby has no confidence in his own ability he is his own worst enemy

    Watkins has been our best player so far

    Harris no end product

    Sam winnall would score plenty in this league if he was played in a team set up right scored plenty in a bang average side last season
     
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    Tyke_80 Well-Known Member

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    I think jury should still be out with all summer signing up until Novemberish, but saying he's been ineffective is wrong. Adds a lot to the game and team
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    I haven't said he is ineffective.

    My post implied he is inconsistent but has potential
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    It's not quite the same thing though is it?
     
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    redrum Well-Known Member

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    It's not really constructive criticism though is it? A thread naming players who aren't good enough in people's opinions
     
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    I'm just glad we're not missing Hourihane...

    We have some good players, and some with potential. I'm not a fan of loanees and would send them all back tomorrow. But other than that, I can't think of a player who I want to slate. Which is refreshing.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    It's just a shame we have a manager who is clueless!
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Does not make a blind bit of difference what gets said on here.

    If any of the players do happen to read if my advice would be to pack in.
     
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    Perhaps his manager for most of last season knew how to get more out of him?
     
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    I despair at some of the comments regarding Digby. I've been playing and watching football for over 50 years, and when I first saw Paul Digby my reaction was that he was the real deal. That was the apparent opinion within the club as well as they chose to tie him down to a long-term contract. Since then he has been hampered by a very serious physical problem that effectively robbed him of at least one full season. Johnson has gone on record as saying that, in development terms, the problems he has had have caused him to be 2 years behind where he should be (which makes him about 18 in football terms). I realise that no-one is taking anything Johnson says seriously any more, and it could well be that yet another very promising young player is going to fall by the wayside. My issue is that there is a certain faction within our support that appears to hope like hell that he fails. And he's by no means the first youngster that this has applied to in my many years supporting the club and, to be honest, I just don't get it. Perhaps it's some form of twisted envy that he's earning decent money doing something that the rest of us would love to be able to do. If only we were good enough. The saddest part of this is that I think the confidence issue mentioned above may have a degree of relevance. However, whether he, or some of our 'supporters' are his worst enemy is, in my opinion, debatable.
     
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    Nick Townsend and Connor Wilkinson have failed to impress this far...
     
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    At what point can we say they made it or they failed. If we take Watkins who has contributed to games consistently all season and his stats prove it for example. He has been a success for me and links up the midfield and works with Winnall better than anyone we have got. But I think some people are waiting for that bad couple of games then to write him off. Exactly same happens with Hourihane. We have young players, it's on record they will be inconsistent by the professional coaches. I can write pages on my observations of strengths and weaknesses of anyone. Players don't suddenly become bad over night. We know Winnall is our best striker, Smith scored 16+ goals at this level and Mawson won every accolade league lower. In my opinion it's not the players ability that's wrong, otherwise why is Scowan so ineffective right now than last season? We aren't a team, we aren't motivated and confidence is low. We don't have a couple of old heads on the pitch to help them through it. That's why our decision making from set pieces, crosses, approach play doesn't look attractive.
     
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    Certainly seen Winnall`s value drop under this manager, opposite of the added value he is suppose to create. Aint done Nyatanga much good sticking him at left back either.

    Cant say have seen enough of Digby yet, he seems to be the new RNL, club don't know what they have got possibly.
     
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    Totally agree with you, Jamdrop.
     
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    When you spend money at Morrisons you are buying your groceries. The staff are simply instrumental in that. When you spend money at Oakwell you are buying entertainment. I would say that this board exists to discuss opinions on, amongst other things, the relative merits of the players who are paid to entertain us. I don't consider it "slagging them off" and I didn't use the other word you mention either. I do though have an opinion, and I think we are being short-changed at Oakwell at the moment. The club have an eye on this board so I think it's important they know what the customers think - accepting that I might be in the minority!
     

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