Very pleased to see he's not been sacked...

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  1. Dys

    Dyson Well-Known Member

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    You're right, it doesn't.

    Why is Conor Wilkinson still here?

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  2. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I'd ******* love to know the answer to that question. Especially considering we offered him the chance to leave and since then he's played about 45 minutes.
     
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    I've been told that the contact offer was withdrawn against DW's wishes. Could be ballacks like.
     
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    It's hard to say, but we need to stick by one manager at some point, even if we can't agree which manager. Nobody believed Wilson would get us to the Premiership. Right? It might not be Johnson that gets us back to the Championship, but there's no point in being left wondering what might have been. At *some* point we have to take a leap of faith. The problem with those demanding Johnson/Ben/Patrick go is that their answers to the problem are to keep tossing the dice and hope the answer magically appears. Fine. It might but history suggests otherwise.

    Despite the neighsayers, most want continuation, not change. For ****s sake be brave, don't die wondering.
     
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    The only thing continuing at the moment is our poor form.

    Long-term plans depend upon short-term results. It's all well and good him thinking he'll get us in the playoffs next year. If we go down this year it won't matter, will it? We can plan all we like. We can talk about how we're going to get promoted, how we'll spend the Stones money, how we're going to beat Barcelona, none of it matters if come May we are where we are now. Or by Christmas, even.

    He needs to turn it around. And I don't just mean by not losing. I mean performances, playing mentality, team selection. Right now there is nothing to suggest that we won't be in a relegation scrap in March. And for all the talk of long-term plans that is the event on the horizon that needs dealing with.

    The best long-term plan for the club right now could be finding a new manager, and then letting him have his way for the next seven months, so that come the summer maybe we'll be prepared to recruit for once. That'd be nice, instead of sacking this guy in February after a few months spent circling the drain, giving the new guy bugger-all time to bed in. Brave decisions have to be made, and they have to be made upon the evidence in front of us. And right now there is nothing to suggest that sticking is the right option.
     
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    Fact is, clubs are losing trust with us, regarding their young stars.
     
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    I don't know if it's a fact, but that's the way it appears to me. We're in the relegation places, we got their players in on loan but we're not selecting them regularly, so the clubs have recalled them.
     
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    How do you know that is fact?
     
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    dodgey defence Well-Known Member

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    Danny probably got sacked for saying that a youth only policy won't work. Its the yes mans decks that need clearing, I wouldn't give him another penny to spend on players.
     
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    he must be running on gas now, one match at a time, one more nail in the coffin. It surely can only be a matter of time; looks like he lost the respect of the players now as well, the way they don't seem to try anymore. It's pathetic, not renewing my season ticket.....
     
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    I'm not in the camp to swap managers every 5 mins and we need stability in this club, something lacking over last X years. However the security and trust in the manager firstly starts with the manager himself. LJ has a responsibility and duty to keep himself in his job. He was employed to take us out of the division and at this stage we expect to be competetive and in striking distance of the top 6. The plan was to develop youth into saleable assets as well as being solvent and competetive. Arguably we are achieving this given the Holgate situation. However I think the plan is flawed in a very simple way. The youth policy isn't balanced with experience. LJ himself has very little managerial experience and by his own admission made mistakes this season. We can tolerate mistakes if we learn from them. However people aren't seeing any progression. I think we run the risk of affecting the kids development without having experience to coach on the field, guide and mentor. The likes of Smith, Digby, Davies, Roberts confidence must be rock bottom. None know if they have a regular start and when they do get a run arguably they have no plan B backing them up (I.e. Back up position, on field coaching etc). Our squad isn't deep enough, look at the bench yesterday with Hourihane, Williams and Watkins missing. The plan right now isn't working and I can't see what will change. Unfortunately holding a position bottom 4 will only draw one decision. While we might like or not like it, the managers position right now is at risk.
     
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    For what it's worth... agree entirely with this ^^^
     
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    To be fair, LJ did say he would get us out of League 1. He looks like he's gonna achieve that :)


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    A bit like Mel saying 1st Division football within 3 years. They renamed the division in year 3!
     
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    Ahhhhhh Mel


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    Except of course this will actually involve s change in level.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    'Probably'. Pure speculation with no substance.
     
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    Just an opinion. Why do you think Danny got sacked ?
     
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    For terrible tactics and poor performances.

    I'd have sacked him for Swindon away alone*

    * I didn't actually want him sacked, nor was I fussed if he stayed. I understood the sacking that's all. He definitely didn't get sacked for being the second coming of Jesus like some keep predicting would have happened.
     
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    He'd won his previous 5 home games so results weren't too bad, so he's one up on where LJ is, so why isn't he being sacked?

    Early last season we weren't playing too badly either.

    There was more to his sacking than you state in your post, speculation or not I'm convinced of that.
     

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