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  1. Mjs

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    Surely a manager will analyse what goals we concede and positions we concede from. Out of boredom and curiosity I've just looked at 14 games and the amount of goals we concede down our left is worrying. Quick look I counted 11 down our left compared to our rights 1,
     
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    George Smith has been crminally over exposed for a player his age, I watched him yesterday and his confidence is destroyed. He's not helped by that useless article behind him. Oh to be a left footed centre half
     
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    The second goal came about because not one midfielder got within 15 yards of their player breaking on the left. Smith did what he could but the tracking back was abysmal.

    ALl stemming from our terrible corners, where we never have anyone on the edge of the area, waiting for the cleared ball. Pearson should be that man, maybe Hourihane, maybe both, but the whole team left us too stretched. Basics.
     
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    Yeh I agree his been exposed at times, were in need of a left back desperately for me smiths very poor I know others will disagree but that's my opinion. Also think nyatanga has gone backwards again went through a spell of looking decent, but looks crap now.
     
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    Not saying it's all the left backs fault but the amount of goals coming from one side is worrying and shows teams are targeting our weakness
     
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    sorry Fired but as I remember it Pearson who originally lost the ball chased the length of the pitch and managed to catch their attacker up and delay him, trouble was there was nobody there to intercept the simple pass inside to the scorer, maybe the position a left sided defender ought to have taken up if a midfielder had chased the length of the field, just my opinion like.
     
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    There were half a dozen times yesterday where nytanga did his hot poptato trick and in his haste to get shut, gave a 5 yard bouncing, knee high pass to george, who was stood on the touch line with a man on. A senior pro would have had nytanga by the throat for that sort of that of thing, but cos hes a young kid, he doesnt say boo to a goose and the crowd gets to him.. He desperately needs a spell away from the spotlight, but we havn't got a viable replacement.. Criminal
     
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    I agree with that, he did chase it down. He was simply standing in the wrong place in the first place. As soon as he lost possession there was a 50 yard gap for the breakaway player to run into. We should have at least 1 if not 2 players a few yards outside the box. Pearson did well to cover the ground he did, what I'm saying is that the set up is wrong, as it has been most of the time. There is no contingency for the cleared ball. As I say, basics.
     
  9. Whi

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    So, because the goals have come from that side, in other words, crossed from that side, you're suggesting it's Smith at fault? ******* hell. Tomorrow or summat when I've time, I'm going to make a video of all the goals conceded this season. And we'll analyse em. Because I'm sorry, I just don't believe you.

    I accept he's limited, right now anyway. He looks devoid of attacking confidence. But defensively, he's the best of any of the defenders on our books.
     
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    Right now I hope L8J is reading the job adverts for seasonal dwarf roles rather than this page but I know what you mean, we've needed a left-back ever since Golbourne went and the neglect of that position has been near criminal.

    Three points in George's favour:-
    1) He isn't Tom Kennedy;
    2) He's a better option than the 'name' player next to him who seems to invariably cost us one goal when he plays LCH or two if he's at LB; and
    3) He isn't Tom Kennedy.

    Yesterday I thought he had an okay start and then when he sent his first stray pass Hourihane absolutely ripped into him for all in the West Stand to see. You could sense George just shrivel up right there and he was poor from then on.

    This happened right in front of Johnson who did **** all to encourage or lift George. Total opposite to someone like Mickey Mellon who used spend the whole game encouraging whoever was playing down the dugout side for us.

    I like Conor but he was well out of order and it's fair to say when Nyatanga was spraying clearances to their players or into the stands Conor said nowt to that useless lummox.

    George would be fine if he was spelling a Neil Thompson type and learning as he goes with a supportive manager. However that would involve one of our own products having a credible development path shadowing an experienced player, two things that are anathema to current club practice.
     
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    He's absolute ***** and technically he's one of the worst footballers I've seen for Barnsley. Too stiff, rigid, unbalanced and rediculously one footed.

    But I agree his mistakes haven't cost us too many goals. He's actually not bad at one on one defending.

    Alfie Mawson has been at fault for a large share of our goals.

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    The best of any defenders on our books?? Really... Not once did I say they were all his fault but let's face it other teams are seeing it as our weakness. May get proved wrong (doubt it though) but smith is a very poor footballer
     
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    I'd say our biggest source of goals against is mistakes by our 3 personnel who normally play CB (including when 1 of them plays at LB). Piss weak and full of mistakes this season.
     
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    Mawson escapes getting hammered on here I agree his been far from good
     
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    What I find strange is why people didn't expect Nyatanga to be the liability he is.

    A section of people were quick to jump on M'votos back for mistakes but were either happy to ignore or unable to spot Nyatangas regular mistakes.

    And yes they were regular last season despite some bigging him up as having an outstanding season.

    I said a number of times on here last season that Nyatanga makes as many mistakes as Mvoto and was pulled to peices for it.

    It's no suprise at all were conceding at least 2 goals again having 2 centre backs who make regular mistakes.

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  16. Whi

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    I disagree, massively.
     
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    I'll be massively amazed if he has a career in league 1 or higher, league 2 player at best.
     
  18. Whi

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    I think Nyatanga's form this season has deteriorated from last season, where it was universally acknowledged that he'd had a decent campaign. Not a superb season, but a decent one. But he's always had an error in him, as do all centre halves. All of them. Especially when struggling for confidence in a side losing every week.

    Big Jean ****** up in nearly every game he played.


    However, I did say to Roy in the first half yesterday that Big Jean would have probably been no worse than our centre halves this season. That's not bigging him up, that's me saying our centre halves are playing ****.

    I loved Big Jean for the comedy factor. I didn't want him to leave. But Nyatanga's a better centre half.
     
  19. Whi

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    He's into season two of two, in his career, at L1 level. He's 19.
     
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    He still looked extremely limited against Altrincham which tells you everything you need to know about Smiths level.

    He also couldn't get in BPA side which doesn't suprise me.

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