4-4-2 Pearson, Josh & Connor! From last night

Due to the systems academies and most teams play non of the aforementioned have ever played in this formation at a pro level!

Had to work on Ben - Connor 'controlling' a central area and a 'pulley system'. Apparently alien to all of them!

 

Weird wasn't it. I'm not that old (early 40s), I played a lot of a football as a nip, went to a lot of coaching sessions and the only system I ever played was 4-4-2.

 

It's no wonder English football's ****ed if the yoof players of today dont have the coaching to be able to adapt to a formation other than what that clubs academyplays/flavour of the month.

Saying that though. Fergie was a big 442 man and I struggle with the concept that this didnt trickle through the ranks... and im sure sheridan also played tis at plymouth... (cant recall if the paths of hurryan and sheridan crossed) with connor described to us by Plymouth fans as a defensive midfielder. ..

Erm.

 

A guy who I work for occasionally is a Plymouth fan I had a talk to him about Conor and his inability to play in a 2 he said it didn't seem to bother him at Plymouth..

 

He'll be OK then when we get relegated.

 

I'd say Manchester united have played a different system for quite a few matches now. Just look at the champions league final 2008 and they played Carrick Scholes and Hargreaves with a front three of Tevez Rooney Ronaldo.

 

It's something i've noticed quite a lot cunning stunt. I often see people quotes like ''get back to basics'' ''play a simple system'' Then say Barnsley should play 442 and it's anything but that for the players. The played DON'T like playing the system. Ben Pearson spoke about it in a press conference early on in the season. The standard for the current players will be a 4231/433. Depending on where you want the extra man.

 

No idea about Pearson as he'd not played any proper football til Danny brought him in. But Hourihane has played in a two for Plymouth as did Scowen for Wycombe. Unless fans of both clubs are lying to me.

I'm sure they'll have played in other systems too.

And to be fair, those three are three of the last lads I'm worried about.

 

I think it was only Pearson who Johnson said had never actually played it before. Hourihane and Scowen just hadn't played it often and weren't very good at it.

 

I think Hourihane's always looked better in a midfield four, either the diamond of Danny's or the 4-4-2 that LJ's played recently and previously such as PNE last year. He's involved a lot more. In a three, Scowen and Pearson saw too much of the ball for me with Conor having to float all over the park trying to get involved.

But, I'm not the qualified coach.

 

Sitting side on Whitey I'd after disagree. Positioning becomes a real problem. A number of times he'll pass the ball into someone than just become nothing. Often Smiths got no pass on and Hourihane just stops. Against York I got really annoyed with him.

Also he seems to only have one pass, Hard, He never passes into a players path. He passes the ball at them which means they have to take time to get it out of their feet and then they get closed down.

 

My point was that in my opinion he's effective in a 4-4-2, be that a flat version or a diamond. I'm fully aware that he's not perfect and makes errors. There isn't a perfect player. Not even Messi/Butterfield.

On that note, are you watching Hull vs Derby tonight?

 

This here is the problem I've been raising for months. It shouldnt be about whether Pearson or Hourihane like playing 4-4-2. If thats the system (and I believe it is) that will get the best out of our best player and biggest goal threat, Winnall, then we should be playing to his strengths not Ben ****ing Pearson. This was my main issue with Hourihane last year, I believed we were setting up to accommodate him rather than play to the strengths of the team, however I do believe he's improved certain aspects of his game and probably could play in a 2 man midfield now, Scowen is still first pick for that position though.


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most likely, Hopefully cricket will be finished in time.

 

personally I find that amazing, for one thing its football not rocket science, plus they have all week to work on different systems.
Surely a footballer should be able top play anywhere in his 'speciality' ie up front/midfield/defence.

 

No, there are specialist positions.
you don't ask a prop forward to play on the your wing. they don't ask quarter back's to play runner.

 

No but a central midfielder should have the ability and the brains to be able to adapt between a 3 man CM and a 2 man CM, that isnt hard at all, its using your head.


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I'm not talking about these sports though am I ? If it comes to that I wouldn't expect a batsman to be a fast baller either. BUT like Donny Tyke said its not exactly a big ask for a central midfielder is it, he's not even operating in a different area of the pitch!