Minutes applause for people who have died

Why does this need a thread? If you can't find it within yourself to clap for 60 seconds in the memory of a life long reds fan then don't do it. To then create a thread stating you won't be when it was his mourning family who have requested it is just pathetic.

I hope that one day a member of your family doesn't die and you request 60 seconds of rememberance (that won't even interupt play on field) to bring some joy to what must have been an awful few weeks for his kids and grandchildren.

RIP Lobby

 

The lad was as far away from me politically as its possible to imagine. I once had words with him and his mates on the stall outside Boots as I was in that sorta mood and I think our kid offered to chin one of his mates. It doesn't mean I can't separate the person from the politics. It is a tragedy for his family and friends if me clapping for a minute offers them any form of relief from sadness even for a second then it's worth pushing all the **** to one side and joining it.

There is a bit of overkill for this sort of thing and I can see the attractiveness of a minutes silence/ applause at the last match of the season as an alternative but at rhe same time I guess that wouldn't offer the same sort of immediate comfort to family and friends. Personally I see it as a little mean spirited not to think of others for a minute out of a week but each to their own.

 

After reading on here all week and every week, seeing and listening a minutes silence or applause at the match makes a refreshing change to see everyone in togetherness.

Still think there should be just one at end of season with names read out like.

 

So do I. That'd get ridiculous.

 

An end is season thing sounds much more sensible. We honour the fallen through the years on Rememberance day. If clubs would arrange something for the last home game of the season, for the footballing family, then I can't see how anyone can not acknowledge that.

As for people needing comfort in the following days or weeks of loosing someone, speaking from my own experiences (Sister, Brother, Father), what's happening in the world around you is the last thing on your mind.

 

Clapping a BNP racist this is getting silly now I agree. Sick of applauses nearly every single week. It's a bad fad that needs to go away. I don't like roadside flowers either. You don't need to remind complete strangers where someone passed away and you can use their grave for that.

 

I've known the lad for 20 odd years and i feel i must say he was always respectful and friendly towards me whenever our paths crossed. Politically we were polar opposites and history has proved that people who feel socially disenfranchised and who exist on the margins of society are drawn to extreme political movements. I find some of the comments on this thread quite distasteful and extremely judgemental... To coin a cliche you have to walk a mile in someones shoes (to understand what they have endured and what they have become)

 

It's horrible for his friends and family. Never a good time but especially so close to christmas. Not enough is done in this country to help those with mental illness either.

But now it gets to the point where people clap and don't know what about. Or they see others doing it and feel they have to join in or it looks bad. I understand some families feel extra support from it even if it's mainly just strangers doing it. It's just I think the saying less is more should be applied. Having them all the time devalues the meaning of them because it's just another one and we will have another coming soon enough. Having a minutes applause at the end of every season would be a lovely touch. Could even chuck in some complimentary tickets to loved ones and invite them on the pitch before the game to appreciate it in person.

 

Now then I'm all for respect. I wish his family and friends the best honestly but trying to justify the views of BNP because some don't want to clap for a man with fairly abhorrent views they never met is ridiculous (however many miles you walk in any shoes). Not saying I'm going to be jeering but I don't really feel I should have to join in.

P.s. I'll be judgmental of anyone with those beliefs and proud of it.

 

It isn't even just the BNP stuff it's the fact he was until his death a member of the biggest football hooligan 'gang' associated with, and damaging the name of Barnsley football club. I think it is far more disrespectful of his family and friends who KNOW what this man was involved with to even request and organise such a thing at the very club he has harmed through his involvement than it is to post a thread alerting everyone to just what they will be blindly applauding.

If anyone else wants to applaud the life of a BNP activist football hooligan who has caused harm to this town and clubs reputation then crack on but I won't be bothering.

 

There are some real Tools on here at times

 

I too find the beliefs of the bnp, edl etc abhorrant and there is absolutely no justification of their views in my text. It is an offer of a rationale in an individuals case for the ignorant. You have every right not to participate.

 

I won't be applauding because of his political beliefs nor will I applaud him cos he liked a bit of bother. What I will do is applaud him out of respect for the person he was with me on the occasion our paths crossed.

Always found him to be a decent fella.

What I do object to is your sanctimonious selective whinging about why you are not applauding the life of a popular and well liked bloke especially when it involved BFC regardless of his 'extra curricular' activities.

Give it a ****ing rest.

 

To be fair, when someone is publically asked to do something (especially where there is an element of peer pressure involved) and it is for someone who goes against their beliefs/ideals or whatever you want to call it, then I think they are entitled to say no and explain why. It's not like he's going to protest at his funeral or boo at the match, that would be kn0bheadish but I don't see why he shouldn't be able to explain his stance and the reasoning behind it on here after being asked to do something he disagrees with.

I don't understand why people would ask someone to do this anyway, I wouldn't dream of asking strangers to clap for someone they have never met.

 

Good lad was Lobby, do owt for anyone , stop slating someone who's died ffs.

 

Why?if you walk past a funeral, you think oh that's sad but you don't join in! It really isn't compulsory, what if you don't agree with what the deceased stands for for example if the applause isn't meant it's meaningless anyway. It really should be the individuals choice.

 

I never understand this. (Just to be clear, I don't know Lobby and I have no idea whether he was a nice guy or not so this comment is not in any way related to him at all.) If someone was an awful person during their lifetime, why do you have to pretend that they weren't (and clap or whatever) just because they have now died? It seems two faced to me. As I said, don't go and boo at their funeral/go out of your way to upset their family or whatever but equally you shouldn't be forced to pretend that they were lovely either if they stood for everything you were against whilst they were alive. In the case of publically having to pay respects it puts you in a difficult position because you shouldn't be made to do something for someone you can't stand but then if you don't, you're the one who looks like a bad person.

 

Fair enough it's everyone's right not to participate in a round of applause. But just stop and think for a minute, he's a Barnsley lad , he's never done anything wrong to anyone on here , his family read this board and are hurting and upset. Just let the lad rest in peice instead of posting things which will upset his grieving family and friends..

That's not aimed at you Jam Drop but other posts further up the thread .

 

Absolutely. For whatever reason, this whole business has been made public. That goes both ways - if you want some people to stand up and publically say what a nice guy he was then other people are perfectly within their rights to publically say that his political opinions were abhorrent and that being a Barnsley fan in no way makes that the kind of thing they could be seen, even tacitly, to support.

His family want the whole stadium to stand up and clap him, but 99% of those people won't have known him. All they can do is draw conclusions based on the information that's available. As far as I can see, that's a few people saying that he was a decent character and the fact that he actively supported the BNP. Nobody should be surprised when some people have an issue with that.

 

Can admin delete this thread it's getting rather sick to start slagging off someone who took is own life due to mental health problems


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