The biggest factor in us winning games

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  1. SuperTyke

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    Has been the forced removal of Josh scowen
     
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    That is a very valid observation
     
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    Mmmmmmm prior to his injury he was my POTY! Not saying you're wrong or owt but Josh was my first name ont team sheet.
     
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    You do realise that we were losing week after week when Josh got injured & it was only when Hammill joined that things changed?
     
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    Hammill for me.

    And the departure from insisting we need Scowen, Hourihane and Pearson at the same time - obviously enforced as you say.
     
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    OK the head coach deciding off his own back to suddenly sign a left winger who used to be at the club years ago is probably the biggest factor but scowens injury has been massive for us. If he was still fit we would be playing 4-5-1 with hammill crossing to absolutely nobody while scowen and Pearson patrol our 18 yard box.
     
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    Really? I thought he'd been awful and along with Pearson had been our worst player/players this season by a long way
     
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    So not Scowen particularly. Just not having more in the centre than we actually need.
     
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    Yes but that has been due to scowens injury. If he was fit there is no doubt in my mind that he and Pearson would still be babysitting each other
     
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    LJ and us have dropped lucky, it's not good management or good scouting that hammill signed or scowen getting injured so we now can play an extra striker and not playing defensively against dog **** sides in a very poor league. We have now got a bit of confidence running through the side all due to hammill signing and the type of person /player he is and we can keep on winning games irrespective of our 2 centre half's and manager.
    I know this is slightly negative after a good win but it's true and we need to be careful in Jan onwards because without hammill next season and if hourihane goes can LJ take us on? I don't think so because any of us could manage this team, in my view it is the players who have turned this current improvement in form round due to not being restricted in a formation that didn't work in this league not the head coach coming up with a new system that's getting the best out of the team.

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    strange observation. for me, josh had been the only positive in our $hite season, up to getting injured. i can't wait for him to be back.
     
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    Adam Hammill. It's as simple as that.
     
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    This.

    Josh Scowen getting injured and Hammill falling into his lap - not exactly good management that this forcing of hand was required before he tried picking a side that actually wanted to attack a game and win.

    They say it's better to be lucky than good i guess but I'm still not convinced he's any better than your average pub league gaffer.

    I'm not sure we needed mystic megs crystal ball to predict that Adam hammill would make us more direct and faster flowing going forward, or that by being a more attack focused team would bring the best out of our existing better players, especially Conor hourihane. Conor is far from a complete midfielder, but at this level there are few (if any) more effective central midfielders than him in the final third.

    Two centre forwards, two wingers, 4-4-2 and stop complicating it in this alehouse league. Some if us asked for it months ago before we dared dream we'd get someone of hammill's quality. Funny that.

    We won't win every week, we're piss poor at the back - so why not play to our strengths? I do at least give him the credit for recognising this even if belatedly.

    As for the point in the thread - the single biggest factor is mr hammill. Made the team more attacking and direct, brought fans onside and some excitement and buzz, and improved the confidence of the rest of the team. I'd fancy my chances of winning a lot more with him in my team if i was a player. I take the point about scowens injury, had he been fit he might still have been playing five across. But I'd have him in the side if he was fit to be honest, mr Pearson looks little (if any) better in my eyes, other than at collecting cards, we might as well play our own player.
     
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    I don't think he's recognised it. I think he's been forced into it because his recruitment and treatment of players in the past has led to him having no alternatives. He couldn't pack the midfield because he has banished the likes of Abbott and digby, released the likes of berry and bailey. He's been forced into playing the formation he is
     
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    I partially agree with the original poster. Scowen is my favourite player but wasn't playing well before his injury and having him and Pearson in the same team doing the same job is just ridiculous. Shame our manager couldn't recognise this and it came along at the same time as the happy accident of Hammill wanting a trip down memory Lane. Big questions to address for LJ when Scowen is fit. If Pearson stays on loan he seems undroppable.

    Luke Berry 4 goals in 5 games not the best decision to release him in my opinion if we sell Hourihane I think he could have stepped into his role.
     
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    61 league games, 19 goals, 20 assists.
     
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    I'm with you. I thought you were meaning Scowen was **** or something like that.

    Scowen in for Pearson when he's back fit & I'm a happy man
     
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    remember some wise sages on the bbs decided he didnt do anything for bfc!!
     
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    And I suppose you think Nyatanga is worth 100 million too ???
     
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    so the moral of the thread is that if Hammill gets a long term injury, then we are screwed.
     

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