Fracking in tarn

Petition here against fracking (f you are in favour of fracking then I guess there'll be a petition for you somewhere)
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/keep-barnsley-frack-free

 

Won't a few acres of fenced off scrap ground, tatty and rusty machinery, clouds of smoke and flames, the smell of oil and gas, big lorries endlessly roaring through the streets, pounding noise thumping all day and night, and the possibility of a few minor earthquakes, make a vast improvement to the town?

 

Fracking - bring it on; who in their right mind is against cheaper gas bills?

 

I'm not totally clued up on Fracking ..they say 'could' cause harm to the environment etc, but how do they know this if we haven't done any fracking yet .Surely we're better off as a country being self sufficient and creating our own power and energy if we can, rather than pumping it thousands of miles from Russia or the middle east. Our area was built on mining, what's the difference?

 

I am not convinced we will get cheaper gas bills.

Look at oil and petrol prices. The pump is still high compared to equivalent pump prices when the barrels were this price before.

Eon have just announced a price cut of 5 percent.

Big smell. The wholesale prices have also plundered.

Capitalism is alive and well. Profits before customers and consumers.

Fracking will give them even more profits. I'm far from convinced we will get anywhere near a reduction in prices

 

i thought you were describing the halcyon days of coal mining there for a moment

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14432401

In Oklahoma, for example, they've gone from 2 earthquakes a year before 2009, to 2 earthquakes a day!
This is since fracking started...now that is in a sparsely populated area....put that into densely populated areas like we have in the UK and it is literally a disaster waiting to happen.

 

Signed.

 

Putting the environmental issues/concerns to one side, If anyone thinks this whole fracking thing will be for the benefit of the nation as a whole, I'm afraid you're living in cloud cuckoo land. The multi-national takeovers will soon be in overdrive and expect pretty much what happens nowadays with tax evasion/avoidance and benefits for the few. Then of course when if it goes all tits up, the good old tax payer will be left with the fall out and expenses.

 

Oops double post

 

They only say 'could' because of legal reasons, its the same reason that domestos only kills 99.9% of all known germs, they actually believe it kills 100% but because they will never prove it they have to say 99.9%

Anyway fracking involves pumping thousands of tonnes of chemicals into the ground. There is no other way to describe that than polluting.

And in the words of peter Jones, for that reason I'm out

 

If anyone thinks this whole fracking thing will be for the benefit of the nation as a whole, I'm afraid you're living in cloud cuckoo land. The multi-national takeovers will soon be in overdrive and expect pretty much what happens nowadays with tax evasion/avoidance and benefits for the few. [/QUOTE]

So you're happy with the status quo are you ? Lets just continue lining the pockets of the Russian oligarchs . So if you can see into the future, what do we do when the oil runs out ? Get the candle out

 

So you're happy with the status quo are you ? Lets just continue lining the pockets of the Russian oligarchs . So if you can see into the future, what do we do when the oil runs out ? Get the candle out[/QUOTE]
Go on, where have I said I,m happy with it. This govt does nothing to promote green energy, It Allowed,and earlier conspired to banish a natural asset (coal) to the history books, Unlike fracking,we know all about the negatives of coal. What about lining the pockets of muti national companies who could well include Russian Oligarchs in their ranks. It's ok for foreign govts to make a profit out of our energy market, yet we see nationalisation of our essential utilities not beneficial to the nation.
This nation will wake up to all this when it's far too late.

 

Given we have a heritage of extracting minerals from our land in Barnsley to general fuel, jobs and support the community I would have thought this town it's community would support fracking?

 

I'm all for green energy, wind ,wave ,solar, sunflower oil whatever ! bring it on as long as were self sufficient. .Not sure it'll ever be enough to provide for 60 million people though unless we all want a windmill at the bottom of the garden.Unfortunately mining for coal has finished but to say we shouldn't explore the possibility of extracting gas from under our own land is a contradiction.

 

Yeah we havent suffered subsidence and landslip at all have we. You cant take out art wiart nowt apnin - summert has to fill the void.

 

It's weird how people around here have become so sanctimonious about fracking yet the same people feel so hard done to by the closure of the pits.

Bring it on I say, it'll create proper jobs with proper wages...or should we just keep giving large businesses incentives to base themselves here for the cheap labour in warehouses and call centres?

 

That's what capitalism is, it's only competition that stops the consumer from being completely bent over and f**ked.

 

Why jump on the next fossil fuel hoss that will be boom and bust. No idea how much gas they could extract but surely we are better off investing in renewable clean energy. Aint we learnt nowt!???

 

If renewable energy sources are viable then obviously we should go for it, but we're a long way from that being the case.

There's also the debate as to whether 'climate change' (which is essentially what all this boils down to) is actually anything to do with us burning fossil fuels and rather just the fact that the Earth is exiting an ice-age for thousandth time but that's a whole different kettle of fish.