Johnson speaking to Bristol

Proper LOL.

So Cryne says that LJ would be the last manager he employs, yet at the first approach (after sticking by him through the worst run in living memory) grants a club permission to speak with him. Then releases a statement bascially saying we don't need the manager.

I genuinely couldn't give a **** if LJ goes but what a circus.

Whilst ever we are still building a squad on loans and disposable head coaches we can't progress as a club. We are basically a nursery club for anyone and everyone elses players and managers.

**** sake BFC.

 

Couple of thoughts spring to mind...
Keith Hill... We are now Layering... Suggested Bobby will be manager in a few years.
(Strange how things are working towards what he was attempting/suggesting)
Upturn in form, since Bobby returned?
Don't know, its a weird one, and one which i can't be bothered scratching the grey matter over...
But, for once we have an upturn in form as a manager leaves, so may attract a decent applicant.
Or we don't faff about, and give it Sir Bob anyway.
Either way, if he stays, fine, if he goes, fine (under the current run, id be dissapointed, it would be interesting to see how far this could go).
One thing I am wary of though, is we need to ensure that this doesn't mean a mass drop in form (if it was LJ who was behind it) or we don't suddenly start having a mass exodus of players.

I really don't know what to think.
Compo inwards would be nice for once though rather than sacking another manager... err Head Coach

 

Yep, I reckon Cryne is thinking I stood by you through one of the worst periods in our history and this is how you repay me...well you can ****** sunshine

 

Nobody is looking good out of this.......

Lee Johnson: Appears to want to leave to the first club to show interest in him and has no intention of showing loyalty to the Cryne family for sticking by him through our worst ever run. Going to get a reputation as a quiter.

Barnsley Football Club: Stand by him through a terrible run and yet accept an approach straight away for him. Release a ridiculous statement making out it doesn't really matter who our head coach is. Way to make the current bloke feel appreciated so he might at least think about staying. Instead we make his decision even easier.

Bristol City: Want an underachieving head coach who's mid table with a top six budget. A guy heavily reliant on loans who's best three players are a former player everyone knew about and two Danny Wilson signings. Failed to prove himself in the transfer market. Wouldn't be in the frame at all there if he wasn't a former player.

 

Doesn't the message say that they've given Bristol City permission to speak to him? Doesn't mean he'll go. He probably will tho'.

 

Could be Danny 1st time round

 

And so he will be. We'll be appointing a new Head Coach, not a Manager!

 

Nothing I've seen has said that LJ wanted to speak to them. It could just be that BCFC have approached for permission so we've said yes.

 

Maybe Johnson's said there's nothing to speak about.

Straw clutching.

 

One good thing, the compensation package as of now will be a lot bigger than last year.

 

Spot on.

 

If he want to go let him go no great loss we should get a good payout too with him going to a championship club

 

The quote says that they've given Lee Johnson permission to speak to Bristol City, not the other way round. The way it's phrased implies pretty heavily that he's requested it.

 

Cryne didn't decide not to sack Johnson because he's nice and it was Christmas. He didn't sack Johnson because he has finally realised that sacking managers at the drop of a hat doesn't work. And the decision has been proved right.

 

Sorry Ark, that's not true.

Cryne said he would not sack a man with a family at Christmas but said that no one can escape accountability.

Ergo if results had not improved he'd have been chopped

 

Radio Bristol reporting that he's down there now.

 

Do you believe what someone says (semi)publically on Facebook? If he hadn't thought he could turn it round once given an improved squad he would have been sacked

 

If he goes to talk to them then he is obviously interested. Regardless of whether he gets offered the job or not would you then want him back ?

Dont think i would

 

I have pretty conflicting views about all of this. I think everyone has done a pretty good job of summarising a little portion of what makes the sum total of my opinion.

Lee Johnson has a personal connection to Bristol City and, on face value, they're from the league above and have historically had a decent budget. I can see why he would like to speak to them and I don't for a second think we've 'granted permission' without him indicating that he at least has an interest in hearing them out.

In terms of timing... It's just indicative of football as an industry right now, isn't it? 8 losses in a row and everybody (not EVERYBODY in a literal sense...) wants Lee Johnson out of the club, and he most certainly wouldn't be talked about in connection with what outsiders would see as a 'promotion.' I'd say that's standard for any club, so why shouldn't it work the other way? A short but very decent run of results should probably mean the manager should be linked with bigger and better. To me the upturn is form is obviously nice, but it also means nothing at the moment... We're still 12th. If the form continues to the end of the season and we scrape into the play-offs, coupled with an already-guaranteed Wembley final, then it's worth taking note. This is emblematic of the short-terminism that is rife in football though.

Speaking of which... In reflection of the statement, I do think there's elements of BS in there. I don't think it's the wisest statement in the world, and to me it stinks of a club who know the 'head coach' is going to leave for Bristol City in the very near future. Nevertheless, I agree with its content - I just think it's the sort of thing that should be discussed behind closed doors by those who have released the statement, not shared with the fans, players and, let's face it, the outgoing head coach himself.

Because lets be clear, there has been a great deal of luck involved in the club's upturn in fortunes. Luck and Adam Hammill. 3-5-2/4-5-1/'the Johnson way' didn't work. The way we were playing won't work at Bristol either. Hammill came in, injuries and the emergence of Hourihane as a 'complete' midfielder have made 4-4-2 possible and that's where the results have come from. Also, January is now behind us. We will miss Long but 4-4-2, Hourinane, Winnall, Hammill, White, Bree and all those responsible for the improved results will still be here if Lee goes. It's the players who have got the results. Lee Johnson deserves credit, as do the club for showing him loyalty when it looks like they might not get any in return, but any incoming manager will be able to pick up where Lee Johnson has left off. I think that's the point of the statement and for that reason I agree with it. Layering and underbellying.

In summary, in the grand scheme of things Lee Johnson hasn't really achieved anything here but he's also achieved a lot... So maybe he'll go and maybe he won't. He'll go with my blessing but I'll also be bitter. The club will move forward but it'll also take a few steps backwards. And so on and so forth. Either way, it hurts my head and I feel like the tone of this post is pretty bitter. Maybe I'm bitter.

I need a lie down. See you at Bury. and Wembley. Twice?