Re: and there it is You're arguing against yourself. That's exactly my point. The jobs in industry that were readily available for school leavers to walk into aren't there anymore for this generation. Mainly because your generation took them away by voting in Maggie.
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad Couldn't agree more... Always thought my/our generation (born 60/70s) had it better than anyone. Leaving school the only competition you had to worry about going for a job was other local kids. This generation are in competition with the rest of the world for the same jobs. We had no wars to have to go and fight ... you could go anywhere you liked as a kid ... you had lots of prospects without really having to put the effort in. Feel sorry for the kids these days. They've had their childhood swapped for a few gadgets, they work 5 times as hard at school than we did (only for my generation to say 'exams are easy now') they look after each other better than we ever did, they aren't allowed to go anywhere and God forbid more than 2 of them congregate somewhere as my generation would be screaming for ASBOS handing out. They're miles better than we were and yet they still get a bad press. That said they couldn't create decent music to save their lives
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad No, the youth of today are doing internships in the City in their summer holidays for NO PAY, or working in sports shops or shitty call centres where they monitor the time you spend going for a p.iss to try and scrape together a bit of cash to put towards their exorbitant University fees. You know, them that used to be free.
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad No you have that accolade covered pretty consistently regardless of which topic you choose to defecate out of your fingers about.
Touché... it seems we must agree to disagree, I thankyou for that reply as it has somewhat diffused me. I can tell you some horror stories of survival at the home front from my own experiences.. I agree that we had better opportunity to set up pensions... but many did not. The one who did are now being envied and being called lucky ... it was not luck it was forward planning, it was intelligence. Sadly some have not the nous , even now, to plan for a future. Oh and FYI I did not buy a house cheaply.. due to the fact that I was in the R.A.F. and so waited till I left and then got a mortgage... and the eye popping boom had begun before I got on the ladder. However I still had been able to see enough to invest in a modest way to enable me to be comfortable for me and my families future. I hope you and yours are ok too.
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad Thank you, there's the gist of my points put together more eloquently than I managed.
Re: Touché... it seems we must There's always different personal circumstances and I know that some people from that era had it mega tough. My dad got to grammar school yet had to leave at 14 because of poor domestic circumstances and domestic abuse basically meaning he had to go to work down the pit. By the time I was born he'd done O and A levels at night and a degree course supplemented by my Mum (and the State, to be fair) and was a teacher. So did I, son of the new middle class, have it easier than him? You bloody bet your life I did. Times 1 million. I just people generally don't realise the level of competition kids face now for every worthwhile job. And they bloody work harder at school than we did. I promise you. All the best to you and yours too Baz. We're grand thanks. We're lucky
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad Between high school and college I worked weeding in grave yards, in college I worked a soul crushing job in a call centre getting abuse every night for trying to earn a little extra money around studies. At university I did freelance work for a landscaper and a builder around a very competitive time consuming course. When I finished uni I did 3 months unpaid internship where I rarely finished before 7pm then a year on well below minimum wage again working late nights, weekends and sometimes all nighters unpaid. I then did another year where I barely scraped minimum wage with the same hours and now I am in my second year of a competitive architecture masters program doing freelance jobs of extensions and new builds on the side so don't you dare say this generation is lazy just because you had a summer job.
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad Good one. Then consider my generation born in the 50's, brought up in a coal mining town where you more or less had to work for the NBC, 8 hour shifts in dangerous conditions (I saw more than one tragic death underground) coming to the surface covered in coal dust, lung disease only a few years away. But we had it good apparently compared to the present generation who work in air conditioned offices tapping away at their computer keyboard with the only knowledge that they would get arthritis in their fingers through overwork......life is so bad
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad NCB of course, - just another case of technology overcoming human meaning - preemptive text
errrm you are so aint lucky you have so earned it... guess in some ways we are on the same kinda weird song sheet. are you going to Wembley.. maybe we should ask the peers of the bulletin board to gather the BBS at one of the London pubs that we have been advised to use... that IMHO would be a great idea.
Re: well I had a paper round as a lad Gutted, I had images of you all underground, covered in coal dust, knocking out episodes of Saturday Night Live and Chicago PD
Cannot believe that this thread hasn't been turned into a 'getaway boys' thread. Circa 2003 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I had a paper round as a kid never did me any harm. At the time we left school 82 there was about 3million unemployed very difficult to gain employment as the years have gone on I have had to do umpteen insurance test qualifications and more training than I care to remember. Who cares I now employ several staff and in my experience the one of the worst was a university grad , got this , got that , want this , want that , can't do 5 days and the worst thing , no ****in common sense thick as ****. HtFh
Why any parent would want their kids on the streets at 6am is beyond me . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
