EU referendum. Can someone from the YES camp please give me...

some positive reasons (with evidence!!) for staying in rather than the constant barrage of why it would be bad to leave. I have yet to hear the 'in' camp do anything except tell us how disastrous how everything short of Apocalypse will befall us if we vote 'out'

 

Whilst I probably can't provide you with the answer you're looking for, surely the threat of an apocalypse is enough?

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Do you mean the 'Remain' campaign.

 

We spent most of our history going to war with our closest neighbours. I genuinely feel that closer economic, social and cultural alignment plays a big role in preventing that happening again.

It's not evidence because I can't prove what would happen if we did come out - but I don't think anyone can provide solid evidence on what is going to happen upon if we come out so I'm stuck with going on a gut feeling - and my gut feeling based on the above rationale is that we're better off in.

 

Manvers, Park springs

 

Are Italy having a vote? Who knew....

 

Not disagreeing with your statement, but isn't that pretty much what the 'out' camp have done too??

 

We're only the fifth biggest economy in the world, we can't possibly survive without Europe. Just to convince you further I have it on good authority that the price of socks will rise if we vote to leave.

Of course I am being flippant but I find that 'project fear' is best treated with a degree of flippancy.

 

Because the yanks want us to stay in, that's enough reason to leave.

 

Because unfettered pretty much all basic employment rights will be removed as we race to bottom. Before the EU unions kept the Tories in check now they are powerless it's clear to see in those on the right who support the out campaign the reasons why to make the rich richer by not having to worry about piffling things like holidays and health and safety and protection against all manner of ***** things. If it wasn't for that I'd be an outer but I can see the direction we would go in.

 

Bang on, sadly.

In addition, I'd say it apparently costs us £50m per week to be a member. There is no way we will get the same freedom of trade if we stop paying for the right to do so.

Also, all vehicles manufactured outside the EU have a 10% levy placed on them when they are sold in the EU so Japanese and American car firms have plants in the UK - if we leave the EU they will move to France, Benelux or Germany.

Just two examples. And if anyone thinks it will solve the migrant crisis - absolutely no chance.

 

We import a lot of stuff from China, there is a thread about how it is destroying us as we can't compete. Chuck out of Europe and what incentive will European countries have to buy goods from us at inflated prices? Our export will drop like a stone. Being in Europe with agreed prices and agreed taxation and rules is the only thing keeping a lot of UK companies viable.

 

steelworkers dont think this way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KToQ3R6FcA

 

This 'Project Fear' you keep banging on about, can just as easily be used to describe the Out Campaign as well.

Fek the Nasty Tory right wingers and the Little Englanders
Fek Bungling Boris
Fek slimy IDS
3 reasons alone to be in the Remain camp, but of course there are many, many others.

 

From The Guardian:

At last we may get a debate on Britain's relationship with Europe (Leader, 11 January). What did the EEC/EU ever do for us? Not much, apart from: providing 57% of our trade; structural funding to areas hit by industrial decline; clean beaches and rivers; cleaner air; lead free petrol; restrictions on landfill dumping; a recycling culture; cheaper mobile charges; cheaper air travel; improved consumer protection and food labelling; a ban on growth hormones and other harmful food additives; better product safety; single market competition bringing quality improvements and better industrial performance; break up of monopolies; Europe-wide patent and copyright protection; no paperwork or customs for exports throughout the single market; price transparency and removal of commission on currency exchanges across the eurozone; freedom to travel, live and work across Europe; funded opportunities for young people to undertake study or work placements abroad; access to European health services; labour protection and enhanced social welfare; smoke-free workplaces; equal pay legislation; holiday entitlement; the right not to work more than a 48-hour week without overtime; strongest wildlife protection in the world; improved animal welfare in food production; EU-funded research and industrial collaboration; EU representation in international forums; bloc EEA negotiation at the WTO; EU diplomatic efforts to uphold the nuclear non-proliferation treaty; European arrest warrant; cross border policing to combat human trafficking, arms and drug smuggling; counter terrorism intelligence; European civil and military co-operation in post-conflict zones in Europe and Africa; support for democracy and human rights across Europe and beyond; investment across Europe contributing to better living standards and educational, social and cultural capital.

All of this is nothing compared with its greatest achievements: the EU has for 60 years been the foundation of peace between European neighbours after centuries of bloodshed. It furthermore assisted the extraordinary political, social and economic transformation of 13 former dictatorships, now EU members, since 1980. Now the union faces major challenges brought on by neoliberal economic globalisation, and worsened by its own systemic weaknesses. It is taking measures to overcome these. We in the UK should reflect on whether our net contribution of £7bn out of total government expenditure of £695bn is good value. We must play a full part in enabling the union to be a force for good in a multipolar global future.

Simon Sweeney
Lecturer in international political economy, University of York

 

good old guardian,makes it sound like this country is incapable of sorting any of these issues out itself..

 

And your evidence for suggesting it is is?

 

NATO has kept piece for the last 60 years,not the EU.

 

A 'piece' of what?

 

wait while i go online and copy and paste my reply.