Minority Report v Colchester United

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  1. Red

    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    There are two games to go and we are in the last play-off position. If we beat Colchester, who are already relegated, we could secure that play-off position. It is an exciting opportunity for some, but for me, I am not so sure. You see, I do not feel that this team has the quality required to be promoted. It is nothing to do with who is the chief coach and it is nothing to do with the injury list that has seen us robbed of full backs. It has everything to do with our lack of adequate preparation in the transfer market last summer. It showed in our poor early season form, and it has showed again in our recent performances, as we have pushed for a place in the top six. You see, the attitude of the opposition has altered markedly as it has gone from a situation where our league position gave then grounds to believe that they would beat us by playing an open and expansive game, to a situation that they believe a better way is to keep it tight.

    The way that we have been playing recently has been much more safety first. It is particularly evident in the play of our two central midfield players. They are no longer willing to attack as a pair. Now they are allowed to get forward just one at a time. They are playing much deeper, and this depth means that when our defenders win the ball back, they have few options for a short forward pass, and consequently opt for the long ball to isolated front players, who cannot hold the ball past the first challenge, and the ball is repeatedly lost. Mind you, on the rare occasions the midfield is close enough to support the front two, the ball is lost, often because Winnall’s passing is just awful. As a midfield player, would you commit to close support of the forwards if you knew that you are unlikely to be rewarded for a positive run with a decent pass?

    That first half was as bad as any that I witnessed in the first 4 months of the season, and the team finished 1-0 down. The one-eyed amongst the fans will quote the occasions when the Colchester goal frame was hit and their keeper was fortunate to be in the right place to push a Winnall effort over, conveniently forgetting the rattling of the woodwork at the other end and the 3 other near misses on the Barnsley goal. At half-time we were truly fortunate to be just one down to the poorest defence in the league. Frankly, I would have sacrificed Winnall at half-time he was that bad.

    As the second half wore on, we gradually got on top, but it was a solo effort from Fletcher that brought the equaliser. He beat his marker, ran on and tucked his effort just inside the far post. Things became more frantic and the Colchester goal had some close escapes. Our second goal came as a far post cross found Chapman (a second half substitute for a disappointing Isgrove). His scrambled effort was blocked by the keeper, but the ball bounced up for Fletcher to head home his second. There were just 3 minutes plus injury time remaining, and it looked like a miserable performance would be rewarded with an undeserved win. This was underlined when the Colchester keeper had to be stretchered off after he was injured in the moment that we scored our goal. As Colchester had already made 3 substitutions, an outfield player replaced the keeper and they were required to play out the final 12 minutes, including 7 minutes of injury times with just 9 outfield players. What could possibly go wrong?

    Well, what went wrong is that we became negative. We stopped attacking and we opted to try to play out time by retaining possession and by wasting time. We never tested the novice keeper and we never used our numerical advantage, to our advantage. I had vented my fury on my neighbour long before poor marking allowed an equalised from an unchallenged header. That is, an unchallenged header, even allowing for our numerical advantage. I was nothing less than disgusted. I am sure that it was just the disappointment, but it looked as though we had deliberately throw the game away.

    There were so many performances that were just not good enough, but those performances left me wondering about the possibility of starting next season in a higher league with a team that is just not ready for that jump. The possibility of a disastrous season fill me with dread once more, and I am forced to conclude that we would be better to remain where we are until we are more ready for the leap.
     
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    I'd prefer to go up and see whether our players are good enough rather than stay down, lose Winnall, Mawson, Roberts, Hourihane, Hammill and have to start from scratch.
     
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    Unfortunately you don't get to choose when you get promotion.
     
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    Must be a right laugh living in your house.
     
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    This
     
  6. tobyornottoby

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    I do not understand this post.

    We've just lost to Colchester.

    I'm a simpleton.
     
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    I agree wholeheartedly that we are not ready for the jump up to the championship. However, I think I would prefer to worry about how much of a car crash next season could be after having got there. The financial difference between the championship and L1 is set to get bigger from next year and is just going to make the task of jumping up and hoping to survive at the level above harder with each passing year. I'd therefore take promotion if its offered.

    Although, just once in my lifetime, I'd love to go up after pissing the league and getting 100 points. We can still make it this season, even though large parts of the season have been shocking.
     
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    Don't agree with you often but I am today.
     
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    Other than the fact I still want to see us go up despite this teams inadequacies, I completely agree with that RR.
     
  10. Whi

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    It's a fair enough assessment I suppose, Red Rain. Always enjoy reading your thoughts. But it's bloody gloomy to read. I'm an eternal optimist so probably less critical and more accepting of our team and players limits.

    We're 6th and in with a chance of promotion still. I want my club to prosper, of course, and it's my belief that we stand a better chance of doing that if we're successful. So I'd take another promotion, another Wembley win. I could then say "and worry about the rest of it after..." but I'd be lying. Because as an optimist I wouldn't be worrying. I'd be looking forward to a season with intrigue and excitement, especially with it being in a division full of big clubs. I prefer to see us draw with Forest at home than I do Colchester. Winning away at Bradford is nice, but winning away at Leeds beats it.

    Again, enjoyed your post. Enjoy your weekend pal.
     
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    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    You really are a mystery. You tell me that you do not understand my post, and then in another thread, you say that I am right but I should write with more humour. Could it be that you just troll the BBS looking for arguments?
     
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    Well put Red Rain seems a fairly accurate reading of today's game and spot on analysis of where we are at the moment. If I were wearing a cap I would doff it to you.
     
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    This team had played well for about 4 months at league one level. Without serious, serious investment would you really want to watch them get pummelled at places like Derby and Boro every week?


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  14. Red

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    I'm sorry for being gloomy, but Barnsley is my team and I really want it to be more successful. That desire influences the things that I write, especially after games, and sends me into the depths of despair from time to time. I hope that it does not destroy my objectivity or my powers of reasoning, as it is these two things that I value most when watching my team perform. I think that you will agree that I was right to support the then chief coach earlier in the season when just about everyone wanted him out. Similarly, I am worried about the temporary chief coach because he seems, on balance, to be more negative in outlook than the last. Only time will tell, of course, but we do seem more defensive since he took over the reins.

    Enjoy your weekend, and do not let my ramblings influence you. Stay positive!
     
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    I dont read these things usually so I don't know what you've wrote but you supported Lee Johnson, the worst manager of my time supporting the club but dont like Heckingbottom?
     
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    If we don't go up it's another complete rebuild for next season. If we do go up this season it will still be a complete rebuild because too few of this lot are either our players or good enough for the step up.
     
  17. Whi

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    I can appreciate opinions if they are shared in a decent manner. When folk begin their threads with some kind of massive statement, or within their post they go OTT about certain players, due to an agenda, then I'm not interested. I appreciate your thoughts and feel you're not far off with your assessment of the team in its games at Oakwell recently. We're better away from home, counter attacking is our thing and being away lends to that tactic more. At home when expectation is upon them, they seem to lack ideas, it's become a bit obvious and quite stale.

    I think Hecky is more safety minded than LJ was. I agree. But it's been some run since he took over. And so many clean sheets. But aye, a couple of games aside we seem to be less of a danger going forward. Not sure why both centre mids aren't taking the ball forward. Stood on each others toes again today.
     
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    See, thats what I'm not getting. Why are we going to have to rebuild either way? Surely if the players we have now wouldng be good enough for us in the championship, they arent going to be good enough for the bigger boys at that level.

    The only one I think is Championship standard in our entire squad, right now, is Mawson. I wouldnt be touching any of the others if I were a Championship club.
     
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    If you are influenced by desire you are not basing views on logic, and we know how much you hate that.
     
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    I do not disagree, but if we rebuild in the second tier, there is a very good chance that we will be relegated in spite of it. If we are relegated, we can no longer afford the contracts of most of those players because of the strict financial controls in the 3rd tier. Consequently, we have to sell those players at a loss or pay them off at an even bigger loss. The upshot of all that is that the club loses money next season because it has to recruit 7 or 8 first team ready players and possibly another 5 reserves. It then loses money the season after because it has to get rid of the majority of the recruits. Last season cost Patrick Cryne £2.7m. Just how long should we expect him to fund this sort of expenditure.

    Surely it makes more sense to plan in advance for promotion by acquiring young players who you think will improve over the next 2 seasons to supplement those that are already at the club , and who are already in exactly the same boat. By planning, rather than relying on happenstance, we can ensure that a larger proportion of the team is ready for the step up. This is how the successful teams remain successful. They have long term plans and they stick to them. If you remember, the last time that we were promoted, we beat Swansea in Cardiff. I wonder what happened to them after they lost that game.
     

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