George Moncur

I could show you that Titus Bramble had a good game once. I could also show you Niklas Bendtner score a worldie. I never said every single touch he has is bad. How could it be?

 

It's pointless trying to have an opinion on here mate about Winnall, George Smith or Danny Wilson amongst others. Whenever I do it I get called a troll.

Keith Hill, Wiseman, Leroy Lita, Dale Jennings ect you're allowed to throw out personal abuse. But criticise any of the favourites on a footballing level and you're shot down in a flash. Just complete tunnel vision.

I agree entirely with what you've said about Winnall. Almost every week when he's breaking forward from the halfway line or from deep he hits a simple pass straight at the opposition. The move breaks down. There's no greater example of what he regularly does than what cost us the first goal against Wigan.

But like stated what he also regularly does is score goals and that's what makes him a priceless player at this level as his finishing is far better than someone like Marley who has useful attributes but isn't a ruthless finisher like Winnall.

Of all our strikers Fletcher is by far the most all round and I believe he'll play at the highest level of them all. My personal opinion of Winnall is that the flaws in his game will see him struggle in the championship.

 

I'll continue to shoot you down. Sorry. Because I see no reason to criticise the first striker we've had in my 34 years to score 20 in a league campaign. As I said to Lewis, we see enough gash watching Barnsley over time that I'd have to have something wrong upstairs to find fault with the likes of Winnall. I don't understand your point, at all.

Like I said, Bergkamp was **** in the air.

It's just madness to me. Were you expecting the next Messi or summat?

Let's ignore his 35 goals for us over 15 months of football, the lad isn't perfect and I'm going to say as much on the BBS.




FTR, I'm not against you posting, I don't think you are a troll and have never said you are, and I actually enjoy reading some of your posts as I find them so far removed from my own perception of what's going on that they get me thinking. Which is probably the point of a debate on a forum. No idea how we've got from George Moncur to you telling us again where Winnall's going wrong, but that's the beauty of the good ship BBS.

Off to bed now. To dream about Sam and his **** passing.








NEW SAM WINNALL VIDEO uploaded tomorrow at some point all being well.

 

Thank f-ing christ someone else sees it. Whitey was starting to make me feel like I had been dreaming it. Whitey I will watch your video with a smile on my face don't you worry old mate. You better include the second goal against Wigan where he scuffed it in.

 

Have to disagree there mate...I don't know what you're looking for in a player ...22 goals and 6 assists....take the 2 pens off and it's probably (without checking) the highest of any player in the league.
To say he's not that brilliant a footballer but he's in the right place at the right time is a ridiculous statement...you can be the best at many facets of the game... but having the football brain to be in the right place at the right time is the top one.

 

Good Morning, Unbelievable.

Hes scored 20 odd goals and we are in the play offs.

 

Sam is in the team to score goals, be it a 25 yard screamer or bobbles in from a yard off his behind. They all count and we celebrate them just as vociferously. Other areas of his game may be limited but that's for other player's to do there job. As an out and out goal scorer his top priority is to be in the right place at the right time. His work rate is also first class which is a bonus In my opinion. Just going back to the OP, yes please for Moncur he was the stand out player at Oakwell.

 

This is exactly what I mean. I post my opinion on Sam and get a response ridiculous replies back such as 'were you expecting Messi'... No obviously ****ing not.

I then get told I'm ignoring his goals. Even though I directly mentioned his goals in my post.

Sam can score as many goals as he likes and I'll love him for it as much as anyone else but I'll still speak about his downfalls as I don't see anything wrong with doing that.

 

If Sam was a better all round player than he is he would be playing at a higher level.
We are Barnsley and in the third tier and Sam is playing at his level right now.
Can he improve and progress as a striker? With us I really hope so.

 

If you log on to a forum and berate a fan favourite striker who has done what no other BFC striker managed in the last 30, 40 years, then you're bound to attract the responses you do. You are of the opinion that it's okay to concentrate more on what he can't do, his weaknesses etc. And you're right. It is okay. It's a discussion forum at the end of the day where opinions are shared. But from what I can read on here, there's just you and another who fancies doing all that, whilst the vast majority on the forum are more than satisfied with what Sam brings to the table, and whilst able to see any perceived weaknesses, would rather not bring them up directly after the lad's scored 22 goals and fired us to a playoff spot. In fact, most folk see no good time to bring them up. Because most folk are quite aware that L1 footballers aren't the finished or perfect article.

So nobody is attacking your opinion. Nobody is denying you a chance to share it. Personally, as I've already stated, I enjoy reading your opinions as they are quite often diametrically opposed to my own and get me thinking.

You Reds.

 

How am I berating Winnall. I'm not criticising him in an angry manner. I'm just saying he needs to be more consistent with his passing when breaking forward. He loses concentration and composure when he's running with the ball. He did it against Wigan and it cost us first a chance and then put us 1-0 down. He then showed great composure as a goalscoring striker to get us back in the game. I don't focus on his bad points I just look at both and Winnall as a player and discuss what he does well and how he can improve.

 

There was a guy who used to stand near me in the Paddock (Brewery Stand, now East Stand) who used to constantly slag King Ronnie off for not tracking back. Just goes to prove that some people are better at spotting weaknesses than others I guess

 

I was thinking of John Moncur.

49 year old former Spurs midfielder.



Quick edit, John is George's dad.

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Maybe we could offer his dad a deal to make George sign.

 

We've managed to drag this thread way off topic!

Winnall is a Goalscorer/Poacher and a good one at this level. The system we play (442) suits him when he has a reasonably physical and mobile partner alongside him. Without that he struggles a little when he has to come looking for the ball. His strength is movement and positioning, especially when the ball is crossed into the box flat and with pace. He's very good at getting across his marker.

If he could finish, had pace to burn and had a consistent good 1st touch he would have been gone in the transfer window.

He has his limitations but show me a player outside the premiership who hasn't.

Back on topic. George Moncur...... He's called George so a definite buy!

 

I think we've exhausted ourselves on this topic.

I think Sam's been one of our best signings since 1988 (since I begun watching BFC). I buzz off watching him. His prolific goal scoring enthuses me. I love his endeavour, the graft he displays. He also plays a team game and supports his colleagues. I've no interest in dissecting owt else, because I'm not asking him to be Gerd Muller.

I appreciate you look at it more analytically. Each to theirs, Chris.

 

Stop chipping in then when those who want to discuss other aspects of his game do so.