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  1. and

    andy67 Active Member

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    If you think stay in Europe research TTIP and then see if you think the same. This is a mandate for big business and is the next big thing for the EU. Its almost agreed without most people knowing what it is and the impact it will make!!! Say goodbye to the NHS etc as we give everything to the US!!! Staying is backed by the Rothschild family also another reason to leave and something else to research.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    So leaving is backed by genuine people who aren't concerned with their own vested interests?
     
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    Phew.... yes, lets be saved from the EU.... i mean its not like big businesses and a right wing government would ever do such a thing.... oh ... hang on?

    Private medical records are already being aggregated and sold as data. The blood bank service has already been privatised. Huge changes have already taken place under a supposed coalition government and are continuing.

    None of which is the fault of the EU. All of which has been part of tory "reform".

    I've said it before, I'll say it again. I'm much less worried about harmonised changes ratified by 28 countries than I am by a right wing tory government propped up by a right wing media that deceives us with propaganda day in day out and pushes through changes we are unaware of, that arent part of manifestoes and benefit they closest friends and allies without our consent.
     
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    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    Leaving is backed by boris. That tells me all I need to know!
     
  6. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, I'm trying not to look at it in terms of who is on which side of the fence as there are people on both sides who I don't like. Saying that, the thought of a T**y government operating outside of the EU scares me to death.
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    I didn't have you down as a fan of call me Dave.
     
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    And Nigel. Don't forget Nigel.
    Vote out and support a far right/UKIP led bunch of little englanders.
    I saw an exit leaflet today and one of it's main arguments was "let's get rid of the European Court of Human Rights". Yeah great idea. What with Human Rights being a bad thing and all that.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    So if Boris had backed remain, you'd vote out. How thoughtful your position is.
     
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    churtonred Well-Known Member

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    Boris hasn't backed remain and was never likely to given his political views. that's kind of the point
     
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    It'll form the basis of any lone deal with the US if we exit, but if we remain France will exercise the veto. Several EU members insist that public services must be excluded from it.
     
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    Exile Well-Known Member

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    TTIP will mean the end of the NHS, no doubt about it. Our veto will be worthless on the most important issues. 59% of our laws are made by the EU, so there will be little point voting in either election in the future, as this number will increase. We are being pressured by the establishment of a one party state, namely the European Commission of the unelected. Wake up and don't go dreaming that the EU is going to beneficial to you labour voters, it won't. You will be in for the biggest shock of your lives.
     
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    The current alternative to a broadly centreist EU if we pull out is a Labour party whose leader makes it virtually unelectable and a, therefore, unfettered Tory party in full control.
     
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    Do your research ....there are Labour MP's and Union leaders who want out too....Dennis Skinner for one...Mick Cash of the RMT union...can't see either of those supporting Nigel F...or little englanders..
     
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    Well said. (or typed, or posted err..)
     
  17. churtonred

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    I've done my research thanks
     
  18. sadbrewer

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    No its not...that's only looks true if you believe there's no fight in the left anymore....the EU will kill the left far more than any Tory....don't forget every British Govt. is only temporary.
     
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    sadbrewer Well-Known Member

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    Pity you didn't use it in your post then.
     
  20. tobyornottoby

    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    Is his point not that he would support the opposite of what Boris did?
     

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