Where are we going to put all the immigrants that France helps come to the UK?

I work with a lot of economic migrants. Top lads they are. Hard working. Humans, just like me and thee. You wouldn't know they were any different to us unless they spoke. I'm talking about the Poles. Not the Asians, they aren't as easy to get along with for many reasons and don't really integrate, not in general anyway. It's religion innit? I love the Poles though. The lads and lasses I work with, a handful I call friends now who I've been out for meals and drinks with, great people. They love it here. There are jobs here. They can prosper whereas back home it's not as simple. Is that wrong of them? To better themselves? Is that affecting YOUR life, really?

Yes, a few wrong uns will get through. But I'm sure a few wrong uns from the UK end up abroad n all. We've plenty of our own wrong uns here. State of some of them that have been in the media explaining (like bellends) why they voted out. Embarrassing. I'd send the ******* dole dossers out the country before any hard working immigrant.

Young Polish lad at work, Bartosz, great kid he is, he came to my department yesterday to find me just to ask me "do we have to leave now, Andy, back to Poland?" I felt sad as ****. He wasn't the only one. Loads asking me. And so I got a lass in Human Resources to print a few posters out to stick on the walls in the canteen, explaining where they stood, in Polish.

"what a great idea, Andy" she said. Which I've not heard often in the last 34 years.

Maybe I'm a soft arse? Or gullible or summat. Or just too nice for this modern world. But when humans are good to me, when I enjoy their company, I like it. I try to be that way myself. Where someone was ***born makes zero difference to me.


***except Sheffield

 

You've lost me here mate. You're point was that people want to come here instead of other EU countries, I presume the inference being that they got more here than other EU countries? If you believe that's the case how is it the EUs fault?

 

I can't speak for everyone who voted to leave but I have no doubt that I probably speak for a lot when I say I don't have an issue with immigrants but I don't see any logical argument not to control it. Where I work I have a lot of Muslim colleagues (one of them is my boss) and I get on with them all and in the case of my boss I have huge respect for him.

Yes it is sad that we have hard working people who are worried about their status here - personally I don't think they have much to fear but once the hysteria has died down i'm sure they will realise that.

I don't give a f**k about religion, sexuality, skin colour or anything else. I see a person first and I treat them with the same respect they treat me.

I may not share the same politics and ideology of many who post on here but I do share the same contempt for bigotry, intolerance and racism as anyone on here. I voted out, but not because I want to ship everyone back in fact that was not even in my thought process - this is very different to controlling immigration in my opinion.

 

My point was that we were bound by EU regulation and the reforms that Cameron wanted were in the area of benefits. I have a feeling that there may be other EU states that fight for further reforms in this area and unless there are major changes then we won't be the last to hold a referendum.

Cameron was right when he argued that somebody from Romania shouldn't be getting three or four more times the amount they'd get at home and that it was a real imbalance in the free movement of people.

 

I get that part mate, but why would someone choose Britain over Germany, France, Netherlands, Sweden etc? The impression I got was you were suggesting Britain was somehow more generous?

 

No not in terms of EU freedom of movement we're not significantly more generous than the likes of France or Germany but we were the first to stand up and make a reasonable argument for why reforms were needed. There are other pull factors for immigration and I think there may have been some conflation of arguments earlier on in this thread.

 

Ta, I'd just lost thread of the debate

 

On reflection I think I was as culpable of the conflation as anyone.