The blame games real on here

I can only put it down to confidence. Look, I didn't join this thread to slag you off. If you read back to my first comment I partially agreed with you. But there's something wrong somewhere. And here I'm not bringing Germany into the matter to wind you up but if you go back 10 years or so they were at, for them, rock bottom. Unfortunately their rock bottom has never been as far down as ours but they sorted themselves out and in a decade were back to winning World Cups again.
There's no reason why we can't produce footballers or teams or team spirits like they do....but we don't. Time and time again we don't.

 

Different opinions. Who'd have thought it?

 

I have watched England in tournaments since 1982.

1990 and 1996 apart we have been rank.
too much hype too little return.
poor players poor technique poor managers.

 

Yes. We are great. La la la. There are no problems.

Its just the other teams cheating by not letting our superstars win.

I long for any of our international players to be anything other than poor but am left disappointed time after time.

There was no skill and little passion. If only we were like the Germans who can set up a league with fan involvement that actually benefits the national team.

They should definitely draft Conor in to teach them how to take a corner as seemingly no one knows.

 

None of this matters. It's international football. Yaaaawwwwnnnnnn. All that matters is BFC - Oakwell - August. Real life real footy. COYR.

 

Assuming you just landed from Mars and you went to last night's game without knowing any of the teams, players, who they played for, how they had performed in the past season etc., what would you think about the game?

You would watch last night's game, deeply analysing both sides, and after concentrated technical investigation and research you would come to the conclusion that one side won because they had better players. The other side lost because their players were crap. They couldn't pass the ball, couldn't control the ball, couldn't take free kicks, couldn't land crosses, couldn't mark, couldn't tackle - in fact I can hardly think of anything they could do. They were abject, useless, dire, in fact it's difficult to find words to describe just how completely rubbish they were.

Past reputations count for nothing. They've been crap in all 4 games, and in all recent tournaments. Until somebody finds out why supposedly good players suddenly become garbage overnight, England will never win anything. They were utter, utter, utter, complete bilge last night.

 

"it happens" can only be used as an excuse for a one off. England and our "superstars" like Rooney have consistently underachieved for over a decade. It's not a one off at this point, it's a strongly established pattern and something needs to change.

 

The blame lies with a coaching team that didn't know their best formation and failed to pass on the basics well enough when it came to combating the opposition.

The blame lies with the players for not being able to adapt to a formation and taking on board the basics when it came to combating the opposition.

This lack of intelligence and basic football know-how at international level shows up those involved as being far from good enough. For specific examples see the sending for the goals and the inability to adapt the tactics to create chances.

Also the blame lies with Joe Hart for being the most overrated goalkeeper to have played for England.

 

No-one's to blame. It's not their fault they're *****.

 

http://www.trollfootball.me/news/view/harry-kane-euro-2016-set-piece-compilation

He's no Ian Banks is he

 

I'm sure they do. It's 'elite players' England don't have..

 

It was a ****ing bottle job.

I've seen more spine in a jelly fish than the England squad this summer.

Whole organisation is rotten from top to bottom. Fa and epl should hang heads with shame. Self apologistic ****s.

They ought to refund every poor **** who has had to endure those four games.

Obsessed with money. How quick they can make it, how quick they can merchandise themselves from top to bottom, how many shirts and advertising minutes they can sell both Fa and the players themselves.

English football is about the money. German football is about going out to win.

 

It isn't free to the FA at all.

 

Scott Dann in form? His Palace team have been in free fall since the New Year

 

This might be a bit controversial but stuff it. I don't think our players are intelligent enough. I think we've a squad of players who can barely strong a sentence together who lack the intelligence to make important decisions & read the game properly.

I don't think it's anything new either. See Rooney lashing out at Ronaldo, Beckham at Simeone etc.

This tournament we've conceded 4 goals all from individual errors.

Smalling switched off for the Russia goal, Rooney lost his head & gave a daft free kick away against Wales, Bale scored it through an individual Hart error, Walker switched off for the Iceland equaliser & then Hart & the two centre backs switched off for the winning Iceland goal.

This keeps happening to England, at the last World Cup Cahill switched off for Balotelli's header & Gerrard & one of the centre backs (think it was Jagielka) switched off for Suarez's crucial goal.

These aren't one offs, how many teams actually have to score a well worked goal against us?

Who remembers how bad the goals the German's put past us in 2010 were?

I just think the abilities there, the effort is there but it seems to be a lack of concentration & individual errors that keep costing us. I'm not really sure how you address that.

 

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No matter how you look at it Every manager since Hoddle who was not sacked for football reasons has been a total failure in major competitions. There are no players in the Iceland Squad who would come close to Englands, Wales probably have 2 players who would get in Englands team - yet they are both in the quaterfinals playing to their potential and we are back home. I dont know the answer - what I do know is that just bringing in another manager who fits the FA profile wont change anything. 20 years of failure have proved that - really 30 years as the last England team that looked capable of winning and with a bit of luck would have was Robsons 1990 team[/QUOTE]

Think that's the key bit 'fitting the FA profile' they **** it up every time and I suspect they also interfere on an on going basis.
Its really weird, like you say Hodgson has had success but when he started changing stuff that made no sense and you you saw him slumped on the bench looking confused and depressed he looked lost. Look at Gary Neville he had an answer for fking everything on Sky but has been part of 2 managerial disasters now!

 

I've been trying to figure out for ages why Henderson is where he is.

 

So have Colchester, but we bought Moncur off them.

 

Here's a calm and reasonable summary of the situation

http://www.multimediachannel.info/v...urious-rant-at-euro-2016-shambles/gw-yG8jDyzs