Labour Party in Barnsley

If our Council was Conservative we wouldn't have had these vindictive cuts. Name a Tory Council which has had massive cuts like South Yorkshire Councils have.

 

Where has the money been wasted then? Schools, care homes, come on then where?

 

Totally random Manlito but do you live on oakwell rise still? (If you ever did). Those conifers at the house are going to cause a problem for the phone lines soon.

 

Tories dont get in where there's need, only well to do areas vote for them that's why they are rarely scrutinised .

 

Not sure that's quite what I said. I voted for Corbyn as a Labour party member

 

He's not suggesting that Corbyn stands down. He's saying that a rainbow alliance of left wing parties is the only way to have any chance of forming a coalition government.

He's suggesting that Tory lite policies would isolate the labour party from particularly the SNP and send the party into the wilderness.

If I've misinterpreted that Andy, sorry.

 

I didn't think it was. I stuck my nose in with my post, hope you don't mind !

 

Spot on Dave.

 

Sorry if I misunderstood, I took it as him saying that the only way under the present Labour leadership of them overturning the Tories would be an alliance with other left wing parties. But again that could never work unless the Labour back benches would support a leader they have shown no confidence in.

 

^^^Spot on.


FWIW, I like Dan Jarvis and he's retained some dignity recently. Michael Dugher on the other hand is on twitter right now, in fact he's rarely off it. He's calling folk scumbags, he's mocking the Barnsley Momentum meeting last night, he's doing articles for The Mail and The Sun, he's coming across like a right bellend. Nothing about him seems Labour. Same goes for this Owen Smith chap. Marginally a better candidate than Angela Eagle based purely on not being Angela Eagle. But not a chance of beating JC in the election, unless the PLP and big party donors get their own way and scam the voting etc. The High Court made its decision today and that's another victory for JC and common sense.


Anyone with brain cells can surely see that he's too much of a threat to the status quo. He has the entire Murdoch media empire trying to discredit and ruin him. Because he will bring real change. It baffles me that folk don't feel we need it.

Labour has to return to its roots, it must go towards the left and must seek to establish a fairer society as an alternative to the current government who work for the very few (themselves). Allying itself with the SNP, Greens etc makes complete sense and would be credible opposition at a GE. A continuation of Tory-Lite Labour will see them continuing to be opposition for decades. I wouldn't like to imagine the state of the union in say, 30 years more of Tory power.

 

Interesting twitter feed here: https://twitter.com/CLPNominations

He's the most popular politician of our time.

 

No I have never lived on Oakwell Rise or Oakwell Lane.

 

I think that you may be hyperbolating there.

"Popular" seems to be being measured in terms of how many votes he gets from those who are able to vote in labour membership ballots.

"Popular" in general terms he is not. His own MPs do not find him popular. Labour voters prefer Theresa May to him as Prime minister according to a recent poll.

He will never ever lead the Labour party to a general election victory. Yes he's that popular.

He's a politician. I grant you that. Professional. One who has ploughed his narrow furrow along with a minority of others. One who needed the backing of kind spirited almost patronising fellow MPs in order to be able to run for the leadership. One who is presently the figurehead of a backlash against what has come to be labelled "austerity" (a.k.a living within your means).

"our time" - does this mean over the last 80+ years? That ought to cover nearly everyone who posts on here.

If you're 50, has your time passed now, or do all 50 years count as your "time"?

Or is your "time" a golden era that you have, when you're sort of full of testerone?

Within my time - my 50 years - he is the most popular politician?

Anyway, Corbyn has been in post less than a year, has not won a general election, already faces re-election, and is still the most popular politician of our time?

Course he is.

I reckon I'm the most popular poster of our time. So there.

 

Thread stopper. Austerity aka living within our means. Last week the queen ran her horse in the King George 6 stakes. It was a race she didn't even attend. The horse was a late entry and as so there was a late entry fee. How much ? £75,000 ...... To enter a ******* horse in a ******* race. Austerity? My arse.

 

Nowt wrong with hyperbole. Or making statements that as yet can't be backed up by facts.

"he's unelectable"




Off to bed now. And it's the greatest bed of our time.

 

he is unelectable though. Why ? Because Rupert Murdoch says he is. I'm afraid it's the world we live in

 

There is no logic to your post, unless amongst other things you want to stop watching footballers at Oakwell. Cos they're paid too much.

There will always be some richer than others. Do you not want Patrick to splash the cash for a better team?

Besides which, I bet there was decent prize money for winning, and maybe even coming third.

I quite like horse racing. And there are always entry fees.

 

Aye, you might be right, Dave. But then, all I want is a party that represents my views and Labour under JC does that. I'm a huge supporter of the Greens in so many ways but they truly are unelectable. Hence the need for an alliance, a coalition.

Owen Smith would be unelectable. He won't even win this election...

 

That'll be another bet for you to avoid...

No wonder it's work again tomoz.

 

spot on.

Though I'm sure some MP's will abandon ship and/or be deselected.