How can bfc justify charging top of the league prices

What are you on about? That's not a patch on this



Granted, that is quite a misleading picture as you can't see all the cobwebs and dirt there.

I bet their signs aren't as good as this either!

 

So you think we're not spending enough on players? Yet should still lower ticket prices and do up the ground?

Easy to spend other people's money.

 

Improve in other areas and we could recoup the money from lowering ticket prices. Two ideas off of the top of my head where we are happy to just throw money away:

1) Stock more shirts so people can actually buy one
2) Stock more food and drinks so people can actually buy some

Also, more people may attend with lower prices anyway in which case job done.

For some games we have increased the prices by 2 or 3 pounds and left fans feelings alienated. Instead we could stock more shirts, that's over £40 per shirt. Stock more food, that £5 per burger/pie and drink combo. Doing those things would also make people happier as they could purchase things they want. At the minute we are annoying people with ticket prices, annoying them with no shirts and annoying them with no food or drinks and expecting them to pay £38 for the privilege for some games.

 

Don't go then

 

Went to Bramall Lane last season. They've got a big fancy scoreboard, TV screen sort of thing. I'd forgotten to look at my watch when the second half kicked off, so I looked up at the scoreboard to see how long was left. They were playing a commercial. It didn't show the match clock. For the next five or ten minutes I was constantly glancing up at the scoreboard hoping to see how much time remained, but it was never displayed. I came away from that game pleased with the point, feeling a bit smug that we'd more or less killed any chance dem Blades had of making the play-offs, and thankful for our old crappy scoreboard that constantly displayed the match timer.

 

That's £400 in their pocket just for playing that commercial, that's George Williams weekly wage last season.

 

Brilliant post, championship club that.....

 

They don't have a. Concourse you Stand outside

 

The sort of scoreboard you are talking about isn't free you know

And Jay once mentioned how much it would cost to run one too

 

It pays itself back in a season or depending on the club makes a profit within a year. I got all the info off the firm that supply Man City's when there was talk of the supporters club raising the funds. I know exactly how much they cost.

 

So you think we couldn't afford to sign the players we have without putting up ticket prices?

 

Wasting. Your. Breath.

 

And yet chesterfield use a 50/50 model.

 

This is something I don't understand either. I am not knocking our player recruitment at all, or knocking the players abilities. But we have stated quite clearly and repeatedly that our plan is to buy cheap untested players and sell for a profit. That's the plan, cryne has said so, Mansford said so, Johnson said so, heckingbottom has said so. Since promotion we've signed a league one player, a league two player and a few none league players. Again there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, it's the plan. but surely these players can't be costing the earth so why do we suddenly need more money from tickets on top of the millions of additional money from TV revenue?

It is the same argument that says ticket prices are high because of sky. Think about that for a minute. Previously a fan could only regularly see his team if he bought a ticket to a game. That really was a sellers market, they had us over a barrel. If we wanted to see a game of football we had to pay for a ticket they could charge what they wanted. Now if youre an arsenal fan and you want to see your club they're in TV every week. If you want to see your team you don't HAVE t buy a ticket. The prices should have come down right? Wrong.

But when that's pointed out you get the argument that they have more money from sky now so they need to raise ticket prices. Sorry what? Because a club has got more income meaning that they rely on ticket sales much less that means that ticket sales should drop right? No it means they rise. Same goes for Barnsley. Our income has raised aignificantly, our recruitment strategy remains the same yet because our income has raised our ticket prices must too.

Nobody has ever given a good solid reason why this HAS to be the case but we all just accept it.

 

I know for a fact that in the year to 31 May 2014, Barnsley FC Financial Statements showed a loss of £2,070,734. I know that for a fact, because as I write this, I am looking at a copy of the club's accounts for that year. That did not hurt too much though, because is was funded by the sale of John Stones in the year before. But Financial Statements for the year to 31 May 2015 show a loss of £3,004,116 and that one did hurt because someone had to find that cash, or the club was out of business. That someone was of course Patrick Cryne, who invested £2.9m of his own money to re-capitalise the club. If it had been left to me, and I suspect you, the club would have been bust, because I do not have that sort of money. Once again, I know that these figures are true because I am looking at a copy of the Financial Statements as I write. The Financial Statement for the year to 31 May 2016 will not be available from Companies House until January 2017, so I do not have a copy in front of me, but Mr Cryne has said that we lost £1m last season, a season that we made 2 trips to Wembley, a season that our attendances benefited from a promotion campaign, a season when we were compensated by Bristol City for the loss of our manager. Once again, Mr Cryne would have had to drip into his pocket in order to fund the losses and in order to ensure that the club complied with the SCMP legislation that operates in the lower leagues. Mr Cryne also recently stated that in the period that he has been the owner, the club has made a profit only once.

You are engaged in a pointless exercise. You are arguing for increasing our costs and reducing our revenue at a time when the club is losing money. You are doing so whilst the club needs to invest in more players and better players because the loan window has changed and we have gone up a division. I know that it is unfair to expect our fans to be accountants, and that logic is perhaps difficult ask when the desire for team success at a price that we can afford is uppermost in all our minds, but I have illustrated time after time that success on the field is linked to budget off it. If you cannot appreciate that our success last season was built upon a budget that was higher than most others in our league, then you are unlikely to respond to the same argument targeted in the opposite direction this year.

This thread leaves me in despair.

 

Any idea if Burton turned a profit last season? Logic dictates they must have made a bigger loss than we did.

 

How does it

 

Our big summer signings are guys from clubs in the league we were playing in last season, who had smaller crowds than us. I reckon we therefore could have signed anyone we've signed even without putting prices up. It's not the fault of the fanbase we don't have as much money as other clubs, yet it's the fanbase that suffer because of it because we feel we have to rise prices.

 

A great post

 

Why don't you buy the club