Battle of 1984

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board ARCHIVE' started by Red-Taff., Aug 30, 2016.

Page 1 of 3
  1. Red

    Red-Taff. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,325
    Likes Received:
    3,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Just read the 'memoirs' of a Middlesbrough football thug.

    He describes the pre-match fight in Middlesbrough when 4 Barnsley supporters were nearly killed. Middlesbrough thugs, including books author, charged with attempted murder and sentenced to 5 years each.

    Any 'older' supporters remember this?
     
    Red-Taff., Aug 30, 2016
    #1
  2. onemickybutler

    onemickybutler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2007
    Messages:
    9,307
    Likes Received:
    10,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Remember some Reds fans being ambushed by knife wielding thugs outside a Middleborough pub many years ago. It would have been in the mid 80s so that must be the same incident I'd guess....
     
    onemickybutler, Aug 30, 2016
    #2
  3. Red

    Red-Taff. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,325
    Likes Received:
    3,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    yes, M'bro thug describes how they were all 'armed' with Stanley knives.
     
    Red-Taff., Aug 30, 2016
    #3
  4. tyr

    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,815
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We went up game as hell

    Boro only firm to do us home and away that season and any season

    Spent all afternoon in Boro nick as well
     
    tyrone1, Aug 30, 2016
    #4
  5. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    14,466
    Likes Received:
    3,095
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Counting great crested newts
    Location:
    Hiding in a reed bed at the local RSPB nature rese
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yes I was at that match
    I know something of football hooliganism but it's not with Barnsley
    I'm old enough to have been through the 70s and 80s when it was at its height
    Me and a few of our little group did some crazy things but lived to tell the tale
    I've seen a few things including a few stabbings - but never carried a knife myself although some of my mates did
    Barnsley in those days were quite an easy touch because most fans were miners and violence was generally frowned upon in mining - fighting at work was extremely rare and a no no. Occasional flare ups in the pubs but not the organised gang fighting that's found in football
    It's only in later years especially after the Premeirship season that Barnsley hooligans, in my experience as an observer by then, have become more organised and started getting a name for themselves
     
    Young Nudger, Aug 30, 2016
    #5
  6. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    Messages:
    40,155
    Likes Received:
    7,178
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The saddest thing is that the latest generation of wannabe knobheads will read stuff like this and take inspiration from it.

    I think we have a poster on here knows one of the blokes who was badly hurt in the incident.
     
    MarioKempes, Aug 30, 2016
    #6
  7. LDR

    LDRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    14,721
    Likes Received:
    409
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Groundhopper
    Style:
    Barnsley
    How sad. You almost sound proud.
     
    LDRed, Aug 30, 2016
    #7
  8. Red

    Red-Taff. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2011
    Messages:
    5,325
    Likes Received:
    3,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Having read the book I came to the conclusion that the guy who wrote it was a complete knobhead and if he had half a brain he would have kept quiet about

    things. What stopped their behaviour and probably influenced other similar gangs was the introduction of CCTV -
     
    Red-Taff., Aug 30, 2016
    #8
  9. Gloria Stitts

    Gloria Stitts Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,309
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Which begs the question, why did you read it?
     
    Gloria Stitts, Aug 31, 2016
    #9
  10. tyr

    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2011
    Messages:
    8,815
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Wed a great firm in those days, what are you talking about
     
    tyrone1, Aug 31, 2016
    #10
  11. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    14,466
    Likes Received:
    3,095
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Counting great crested newts
    Location:
    Hiding in a reed bed at the local RSPB nature rese
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Everybody I knew of my age that went to football matches were involved at some level - it was rife
    Thing that stopped it was that politicians got fed up with it - and instructed police to sort it
    Which they have
    It's come back a bit over last couple of years and this could be direct consequence of reduction in numbers of police
     
    Young Nudger, Aug 31, 2016
    #11
  12. LDR

    LDRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2008
    Messages:
    14,721
    Likes Received:
    409
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Groundhopper
    Style:
    Barnsley
    it must really disappoint you to see the majority of Barnsley fans behaving like human beings these days.
     
    LDRed, Aug 31, 2016
    #12
  13. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,607
    Likes Received:
    17,648
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No such thing as a great firm. They're all knuckle dragging neanderthal knobheads.
     
    mansfield_red, Aug 31, 2016
    #13
  14. Marc

    Marc Administrator Staff Member Admin

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2012
    Messages:
    28,517
    Likes Received:
    23,709
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    What a set of cap ends
     
    Marc, Aug 31, 2016
    #14
  15. Bossman

    Bossman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,957
    Likes Received:
    14,026
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Carlton
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Closest I've ever been to violence on match days is trying to get past June on Redfearns door, well when I say violence I actually mean her standing in front of me while I cower
     
    Bossman, Aug 31, 2016
    #15
  16. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    17,149
    Likes Received:
    16,154
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Ex-IT professional
    Location:
    Swadlincote, South Derbyshire
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I can't remember it.

    Doesn't surprise me though. Rough times, there were reports about a stanley knife being used on a Barnsley fan in Liverpool on the night of the League Cup quarter-final in 1982.
     
    Brush, Aug 31, 2016
    #16
  17. Sco

    Scoff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    9,221
    Likes Received:
    7,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The interface between business and technology
    Location:
    Brampton by the Sea
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Far too many of those miners spent Friday and Saturday night getting drunk and looking for a fight. In the late 80s at least, Barnsley was one of the roughest places I went regularly on a night out.
     
    Scoff, Aug 31, 2016
    #17
  18. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2013
    Messages:
    14,277
    Likes Received:
    16,197
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Broughty Ferry
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    June? So that's her name. No wonder she looked at me meanacingly when I asked if she was Eva Braun.
     
    arabian_ian, Aug 31, 2016
    #18
  19. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    Messages:
    29,831
    Likes Received:
    19,294
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballet Dancer
    Location:
    Hiding under the bed
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I was involved in football violence once and I went tooled up. Swatted a wasp with my programme. I'm a different man now though it was different times.
     
    Jimmy viz, Aug 31, 2016
    #19
  20. Sea

    Seattle_Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2015
    Messages:
    713
    Likes Received:
    340
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Re: I can't remember it.

    That definitely happened. A gang of scousers held a Barnsley fan while one of them Stanley-knifed his back. I think he got over 100 stitches and never went to football again, but that was based on the word of someone who knew him. I was at that match and it was terrifying. I latched on to a middle-aged couple of Liverpool fans who led me back to the station. I've never known a worse atmosphere before or since.

    Anyone who glorifies the violence of those, or any, days is a bellend, as proven by those on here who look back on those days with nostalgia.
     
    Seattle_Red, Aug 31, 2016
    #20
Page 1 of 3

Share This Page