Some home truths need to be told about these players

Chortle

 

How I wrote it was. The top bit's facts and what i'm going to post about. That's where my thoughts start. saying the club have conceded x amount isn't an opion it's a fact. Now maybe I should have gone through it after it'd finished but i'm not annoyed tonight. Angry, very very angry. It's not all about tonight because it's been coming for a long time. Okay halfs and luck saved us for a lot of weeks now and the fact that not a lot of people saw the Brighton disaster.

 

I think you're on to something with your "stock answer", we should all do it. You never know, it might work...

 

The sad thing is between all the usual attacks on the usual players are some decent points. You're right that Scowen isn't up to it. You are right that the last transfer window was not good enough. But its like picking through ***** to find 5p you've swallowed. Not worth the aggro.

 

I've just made the second cardinal error. I've responded in an almost constructive manner

 

It's never pointless to debate what your opinions are. Say what you think and explain it

 

I agree but in response to this op it definetley is

 

I'm going to respond to this because I too am upset at watching the game. On the flip I also expected this post from you so, I need to get a few things off my chest so its time to dump.

Scowen played because he's actually played well, he's probably as important to us as any other player in our team, but I could say that about 13-14 of them, because we've got to where we are because lots of them, more than just the starting 11 have contributed to our success at various points. Morsy isn't better than Scowen and Hourihane, he isnt, he might be on a par, but hes not better.

Tonights game was a complete fluke, unbelievably so. Forest were the worst team we've played, but alas, Roberts and the rest of the back 5 had a complete brain fart game, it happens. I'm not going to slag any one of them, because do you know what, some games this season, they've kept us in it when we've looked poor going the other way.

We've actually played worse this year and won. I'm not going to be negative or pull players out of a line up with a shooting squad full of cocaine ready to fire the trigger. This is a long hard season, its one game, its a game we should have actually won. You like stats, look at them.

You don't ******* understand the way the world works, ASHLET ASHLEY FLETCHER is on the bench and regularly getting games in the Premier League, has played in Europe this year. He's not coming back, neither should any of our current batch be compared to someone doing so. Its mental. Beckham played for Preston, do you think Preston fans were slagging the club off for not bringing him back when he was on the bench for united the year after. When he hit the headlines for scoring from the half time, Preston fans were sending hordes of Letters to the chairman, to suggest he's inadequate for not going back for him.

Phil, you're ******* mental. I'm upset at the result, we actually played well and were far better than a poor forest. We made stupid mistakes, and got punished. I would imagine we are feeling the same as Wolves did when we wupped them 4 nil.

I've spent 5 minutes doing this, **** knows why, because you'll not even comprehend it, but at least its made me feel better.

 

My 'home truths' are from a slightly different perspective. You can just as easily switch statistics to argue that we've been tight at the back of late with 3 clean sheets in the last 4 before today. The lads at the back should be commended for that, as much as it is justified to question their errors today.

Hammill was more involved and offered more ideas and application tonight than Kent did Saturday in my opinion.

Personally I'd rather watch a Barnsley XI with players plucked from lower leagues who are striving to improve and are proud to wear the shirt and give their all to keep it and win the respect of the fans long term than a side packed with loanees from Premier League academies who are consciously in the shop window and can slink away to a comfortable contract if things don't work out. It's great to see some such as Kent and Fletcher, but it's unsustainable to build a team on it and we can't afford to buy the best at Championship level.

We are Barnsley, not Chelsea B.

 

I don't think Flecth played like a loan player. Kent meanwhile...

 

Ok then if you feel like that best not to say anything at all I would think or you'll just resort to insults...

 

I know.

 

Ok then if you feel like that best not to say anything at all I would think or you'll just resort to insults...

 

Are you a bit special?!!

 

Stupid internet connection....

 

Its a fair point and I'll @Hemsworth Tyke in that. Hammill is looking out of his depth, he's not quick enough for this league, well based on what I've seen. I hope he proves me wrong, i really do.

On Scowen, I disagree completely, and Morsy isnt imho an upgrade. Scowens quick, takes us forward. Where Morsy doesnt, its a different question though, maybe we need a 'sitter' and not a box to box king of player. Maybe we need all 3 and jettison a striker, or maybe we should all understand we are fans on a message bourd and leave it to Hecky who have upmost faith in.

 

With Josh Scowen I think he's better in a more advanced role of attacking midfield.

He's not got the discipline to play the deeper role. People often moan about passing backwards or square. Well it's all that's needed in that role often. Play the square ball to Bree and with Watkins drifting into the middle (something Watkins didn't do well against Wigan) and he'll push the team 30 yards up the field quite often. I think people tonight will have seen the attacking talent of James Bree. Made me chuckle last week when some said he wasn't attacking. He loves to get forward and he's quick.

 

I'm done with this thread. Its similar to Trump advocating Farage as a UK representative in Washington.