The Guardian article about us

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  1. North Yorks Red

    North Yorks Red Well-Known Member

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    well at least one person called it the Torygraph, another said about it targeting the working class others said it was an unfair sting but apart from that........
     
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    Unless I misread it, he wasn't a criminal when he was employed - he was convicted after he started work. In most circumstances, that would not be picked up by a background check but he should have disclosed his conviction and been dismissed at that point...
     
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    I do a couple of volunteering things and I'm DBS checked to within an inch of my life. In fact recently I changed location for one of the voluntary jobs same organisation same volunteering role and got checked again. When I worked with vulnerable people I was DBS checked annually. The people doing the job now are checked every 6 months so I guess although you are right in what you say regarding this specific crime we did not do even basic checks to see if he had any previous convictions.
     
  5. Farnham_Red

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    Some strange comments in this thread. The important point is the club employed someone to work in the academy without doing the legally required checks. That's just not acceptable. The fact that at the time he would have passed is irrelevant. He could have been convicted previously and they wouldn't have known.
    That's a serious failure in the club and one which they must be seen to have addressed to ensure it can't happen again

    the fact the guardian chose a rubbish picture isnt the story here.
     
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    Spot on, Dave, old mate.
     
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    This.
     
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    Interesting that - becuase that's what this story should be about.

    I despise the guardian but do have time for David Conn despite his Hillsboro fetish and the fact he described Crewe as the only well run club in football so before pressing the link I thought - despite it being a link to the guardina - the story might be worth reading.

    Now - If I were I journalist and I genuinely wanted people in Barnsley to make changes - I wouldn't put a picture of a rubbish dump with a football club in the far distance at the top of the piece - as that might undermine my story somewhat and allow the reader(ME) to dismiss the story as the usual telling o the twisted facts through the Guardiolense like it did do.

    I'm sure the club has a very robust safety dept now - or they will in 5 minutes - and my contempt for the guardian is higher than ever for it the guardian that have allowed an important story to become about a picture - not the other way round.
     
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    I guarantee that noones taking the story lightly based on a dreary picture other than Barnsley supporters.
     
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    A DBS check is unlikely to have shown a conviction if the offence hadn't taken place when he was employed. But that is no excuse for not carrying a £50 check out.
     
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    Exactly right.
    Truly crappy journalism, however I agree with Wakey Red that whoever was then responsible should be disciplined/dismissed by the club.
    If an application form process was used (something tells me it wouldn't be that formal a process back then) it might include the applicant making a declaration about existing convictions or previous dismissals from employment, which might have rung alarm bells, but that depends on honesty anyhow.
     
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    I disapproved of the picture used but not the story and I made my feelings clear. I can separate the two things; it seems some can't.
     

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