Hammill Sending off vid here

new id seen hammills jump tackle somewhere before

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Never a red in a million effing years. Surely the club have to appeal this.

 

Nothing in it, nobody got hurt and the push is something you would have done to your pal into a bush at 7 years old. Currently the experts and the modern day football fan should get out more and stop living their lives wrapped in cotton wool. Garbage decision in an era that is a complete embarrassment.

 

I can't honestly tell.

That video isn't the greatest and I don't like looking at still images as they don't give the full picture.

Surely the club could appeal though based on the fact that he never actually shows Adam Hammill a red card? He just asks him to leave the field. It seems as though Hammill isn't looking when the red card is shown so is unaware that it's been pulled out and leaves the field as instructed by the referee.

To me it shows that he isn't fully clear on the situation.

#TeamsLikeBarnsley

 

Ah, the great referee conspiracy again, eh?

 

In fairness the evidence is starting to back up the theory!!!

 

Wether right or wrong there has got to be a case to get a urine sample from the referee at the end of the game.

 

There is no rule that says if you are airborne with two feet that you are not in control. If that was the case then every single player jumping to head a ball would be instantly sent off. The rule simply doesn't exist.

 

The interpretation of dangerous foul play then.

Have we no common sense at what was being discussed. Being sent off for jumping for a header at a corner is entirely different to jumping into a tackle airborne with 2 feet.

 

Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match

Nowhere does that mention two feet off the ground. Dangerous foul play isn't even mentioned. What IS mentioned is SERIOUS FOUL PLAY. It is a huge leap to say that says that if both feet leave the ground whilst making a challenge that it is automatically serious foul play.


Edit: The fa's adviceand guidelines to referees...

(a) Tackling with the foot lifted from the ground:
This may be dangerous, but is not necessarily so. Using the sole of the foot is an effective method of controlling the ball, but a player who lifts the foot should be penalised if the referee considers that this is endangering an opponent by doing so. If the player deliberately plays over the ball and makes contact with his opponent’s leg, this is a serious foul.
(b) Tackling with two feet together:
In the case of an uncontroled jump at the ball from a distance and at speed, the tackle entails a large element of danger to the opponent and should result in firm, discplinary action taken by the referee.

 

Well I don't get hung up about things being completely in black and white.

But it's in point b.

It's very rare 2 footed takes don't result in red cards.

It's where I stated the ref has used his interpretation.

 

So in short nowhere does the 'rule' that you said was so clear actually exist

Huge difference between taking two feet off the ground and jumping uncontrolled from a distance at speed.

As for the idea that players taking two feet off the ground almost always means a red I'd like to point out that almost every sliding tackle involved two feet leaving the floor so as not to break your leg when it digs into the ground

 

Perhaps the general footballing public should stop pumping cliches out and grow up. It was a 50/50 and everyone should have got on with the game. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

I never said once about sliding tackles. But jumping. As you so pointed out.

And again. In your copy and paste of fa guidelines in point b. The interpretation of

 

A referee's interpretation of an incident can be wrong though. The ref in the Newcastle forest game interpreted shelveys stamp as being a red card. The fa overruled him.

The referee against the blunts interpreted Morgan's assault as being acceptable. Does that mean it was? Or does it mean that we all know he got it wrong?

 

Yes of course he can get it wrong.

I was pointing out that was at his own interpretation of that rule or guideline or whichever it's painted.

Everyone clearly having differences of opinion.

Hammill jumping with 2 feet together made the ref in this instance have to interpret that and make a decision. No more no less

 

Very harsh decision.

My first impression was that if anyone should go off it was Hutchinson, but that would have been almost as harsh.

Will we appeal it or lie down and take it? Newcastle certainly would.

Shelvey's appeal had less chance off success but he got off, 'm sure he wouldn't have if he played for Barnsley.

 

My reading of it too.

 

I think a yellow for each would have been fair

 

Exactly this. I find it unbelievable that some can't see why the ref would see it as a straight red. Tackling with two feet together off the ground will result in a red card the majority of the time. There was no need for Hammill to go into the tackle like he did and by doing so he left the ref with a decision to make.