Angela Smith

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  1. Xer

    Xerxes Well-Known Member

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    Ever considered you are wrong. The chance of war in Western Europe was not due to the EU, but the fact that both France and Britain had the nuclear deterrent.
     
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    Yes of course. It was brown just said i having. That
     
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    It failed the first time around when it applied in the first instance.

    It scrapped in the second time around.
     
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    What about war against each other.?

    That statement is typically complacent .
     
  5. tobyornottoby

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    This situation is different though.

    We've had a referendum.

    Why bother asking the people in the first place, if you go on to vote against the conclusion they arrived at?

    If she voted against a referendum in the first place then fair enough. No idea whether she did or not.

    If she voted for a referendum, then she must respect the outcome.
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    Possible but the history. Books tell us that the binding tof
    Together of the French and German economies has ensured a stable Europe
     
  7. Marlon

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    And that's worse than now ?
    Tories have downgraded pension schemes to an all time low, ask the civil servants police nurses etc.
    Of course the boardroom pensions are doing quite nicely
     
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    that is exactly what stopped war in western europe,the pro remain brigade just tried to use the eu common market as the reason.The germans were the biggest threat to peace in the 20th century and thanks to us,the yanks and russians they were made to tow the line..
     
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    You really are unbelievable. I can only hope that you're on a wind up because if you're not you need help. And I'm not just referring to the nonsense you've posted in here.
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    Come on because I'm presenting historical facts here

    The French and German. Econonomies were tied together to prevent the from going to war with each other
     
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    Any graduate in business. Management, economics or European history will tell you that
     
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    I love these posts from people about how they know how World War 3 was averted.

    Nobody ever mentions caravanning holidays and nice sunny beaches and favourable exchange rates and spendable income and friendly repeat holidays and Gretel with the hairy armpits.

    The drawbridge went down years ago.

    We're European. In or out of any contracts we signed up to.
     
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    so you are saying that caravan holidays rather than the military presence in germany had a bigger influence on peace in europe?
     
  14. tobyornottoby

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    After c.1970 - yes!
     
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    ah.I see
     
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    There we were - 1968 - in Frejus - formerly Vichy France, with our Ace Pioneer caravan, next to an admittedly larger caravan occupied by a former German infantryman and his family, with a son my age (Tyerman seemed to be his name).

    We played the days away, happily fake shooting each other with branches as rifles.

    Cementing European peace for all time.
     
  17. dek

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    so we've you to thank,cheers.
     
  18. tobyornottoby

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    I am proud to have played my part.

    His sister was glorious. Twice my size with said traditional hairy armpits.

    Can't go to war with suchlikes.
     
  19. dek

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    no need to,they had already had their wings clipped
     
  20. tobyornottoby

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    Maybe you're more inclined to see things just a little more confrontational than me.

    Given that we no longer see our holiday supplying or sharing euroneighbours as jonny foreigner any more, given that we all come into regular contact with them, given that we invade Spain each winter, it would seem that things have irrevocably changed.

    Even if the caravan was scrapped.
     

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