Anti Trump rally in tarn, Saturday..

So it's the temporary travel ban he has placed on some Muslim majority countries that you don't like? I wonder if the same people protesting against Trump also protested when Obama did a similar thing. The countries on his list were on a CIA list of countries where there is evidence of terrorism and terrorism training, he didn't just draw them out of a hat. I don't agree with him but he sees it as a way of protecting the USA.

Regarding Hitler I think drawing any parallels with Hitler is extremely disrespectful to those who suffered the Holocaust and trivialises what he did before and during the second world war.

I don't particularly like Trump but this anti Trump hysteria is bordering on ridiculous

 

Yes you do need to go on because comparing Trump to Hitler is just scare tactics and nonsense.

 

There is nothing befuddled about my despair. Wasn't it you who posted a Jonathan Pie video a few months ago? He made a lot of sense in it but it seems nothing has changed.

 

No idea what you mean.

 

Again. Make no comment on Trump or indeed Hitler but your comment that it's ridiculous to protest against a democratically elected leader was ill thought out and just a bit daft was it not?

Of course Hitler took action against Jews to protect his vision of 'Germany' or am I wrong?

We get the leaders we deserve so we deserve Trump.

 

There is a curse, they say may you live in interesting times.

 

No, i don't think it was because I still believe there is a lot of unfounded anti Trump hysteria. I think it's ridiculous to protest against the election of a democratically elected president but I accept there will be some who think that me thinking it's ridiculous is ridiculous.

 

Is it always ridiculous to protest against democratically elected leaders? Should we just accept them? That's an interesting argument. Should we not question? Should we always respect the elected regardless of the extremity of their views?

Again I am not particularly taliking of Trump here. Just seems an odd view of who it's acceptable to protest against. Many conservatives took part in anti-poll tax demonstrations were they being ridiculous?.

 

I'm sure that nobody on this board is happy that the nutcase that is Trump is President of the USA and we're all hoping he'll fail. However, what a lot are saying, as with Brexit, is that what is done has been done democratically and, unless he invades Poland, we have to accept and live with it for the next 4 years. Protesting about democratic decisions we don't like is pointless.

 

That's a very submissive view of life. Poll tax protests? Fox hunting protests? The whole Brexit argument was a protest against democratically elected politicians...the formation of unions in Poland or indeed the UK.

'Disobedience is man's original virtue'. Oscar Wilde.

 

Pointless? You sure about that? The history of protest would suggest otherwise...

 

Not particularly but if the USA public had been happy with the Obama administration they would have voted for Clinton . Its this Democrat/ liberal /socialist crap that I don't like cos they promise the world and deliver chuff all. I'm knocking on a bit now and I've seen it all . The one thing that is probably closest to the truth is that when people say ' they all piss in the same pot ' they aren't far off . Look after yourself and your own , don't depend on anyone else and you'll be alright.

 

thats the attitude, "if tha don't like it get lost" ... doing lots to deny the stereotype there kidda.

 

I am quite submissive. However perhaps I should have said protesting about the results of properly conducted elections that we don't like is pointless. Subsequent actions by those elected which weren't in the manifesto and which we don't like can be fair game for protest but when it's about an election that's only just happened I feel we should respect the views of the majority.
"The people have spoken . . . the b@stards." Dick Tuck

 

Absolutely. If America has voted for Trump that's the end of it. There's no history of successful protest against a democratically elected President of the USA is there?

 

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At least he delivers what he promised which far eclipses any of our politicians. Fair play. He won. Does what he said that got him elected.

 

Nixon?

 

The apple of the eye of Donald as the most important person in his life is his daughter Ivanka who's clearly his favourite child. She changed to become a Jew to marry one. To compare Trump to an evil man who was responsible for millions of deaths of a particular religion and in such an horrible fashion isn't a nice thing to say.

 

Of course there are reasons to protest, sometimes it works and I sometimes support protest but against Trump I am struggling to understand what the sense of outrage is and what the protest is expected to achieve. It feels like self appointed moral guardians trying to tell all those Americans who voted for him that they were wrong.

We live in a free country so people can march against whatever they want. I just don't agree with them.