Question for the moaners

If a premiership team came in for marley with a bid and they really wanted him he would have been gone.
Look at the other post I've done the maths for you conor will be over 550 thousand pound better off in 6months play for a bigger club in front of more fans every week. Been a footballer isn't a long career he has no affliction to barnsley fc he isn't a supporter like us. Why should we deny him a dream move he could have stayed and got injured like cameron mcgeehan has. Conor went to see pat and told him he wanted the villa move. It's only the same as how we signed sam winnall from scunny he came for cheap to play for a bigger club in front of bigger crowds for more money he was still contracted to scunthorpe for one more year. The downside to signing young hungry players is their hunger out grows bfc but it's better than having Mr lita waddling around stealing his last pay packet.

 

I wish you'd used those maths when I presented the facts that Huddersfield had bigger crowds than us

 

Yeah I agreed with you but like I said at the time with the dates you used. scince 2007 we have either been stagnating 4th from bottom in the championship or in league one.
And my maths was right in that they wouldn't sell out like you said but that was the biggest following they have brought to our north stand scince it was built.

 

Apparently Everton have approached Lukaku, he has 2 years left on his contract. They have offered him £140k per week to sign an extended contract, and he has apparently said, thanks but I will let my contract run down. What is should Everton do next?
They can could offer him more, but I suspect they would get the same answer. They could sell, but knowing the player has set his sights on leaving, is his selling price is already affected because the clock is ticking. What do you suggest, because it is the same problem that Barnsley face. We either sell now, or we sell later, but we definitely do not let him leave for nothing when his contract runs out.

 

The club couldn't do anything different in January.

And that's the point - all the damage had been done months and years before this when the board signed players contracts that were p.iss poor and unbelievably all came to an end in June 2017.

 

We were told Winnall and Hourihane would not be leaving in January in the lead up and that they can go as free agents in the summer.

We were also told that if anybody were to leave (which is a contradictory in itself), that a replacement would be found before that player left.

Winnall left and wasn't replaced for the second half of the season, nevermind before actually leaving.

And Bradshaw wasn't the replacement for Winnall. Having three strikers is nowhere near enough firepower for a team in any professional football team, nevermind a side that were a point behind the play offs to potentially get a chance at reaching the richest league in the world, a league that would have set the club up for God knows how many years (isn't this the reason why we're selling all these players?). Yet again, another contradictory.

 

It doesn't actually matter what someone else can offer a player so the math is meaningless. Someone offered Watkins more money clearly. We said no. We could have done that with other players. Is that factually correct or incorrect? I am not saying necessarily that it is the correct thing to do but to say we have no choice is disingenuous. Watkins situation was no different to the others but we said no.

I have no objection to selling any player. They come they go. To progress you must have replacements ready to slot in or you will go backwards very quickly as we have shown. By replacements I mean players of equal or greater ability as we did when Morsy choose not to join.

 

But the watkins situation was different none of the other players handed transfer requests in the deals had been lingering before the window opened I even told somet on here about the bree one months before. Watkins handed a request in with less than a week of the window left.

I agree with you about replacements though hopefully we have a better summer window when the prices aren't inflated.

 

And the request was rejected. Which proves Jim's point to my mind.

 

We offered them contracts in the summer according to the club, they turned them down then. It's nowhere near as simple as people make out. The ideal time to sign them up was last January but we were bottom of League One at that point so how can you offer them players new contracts at that point? The club found themselves in a pretty unique position by going up about 40 league places in a year which in many ways f'cked our whole policy up. We'd have been better coming up and lingering around 20th all season as our players wouldn't have been so attractive to other clubs then and Hourihane et al would have been much more likely to sign up.

 

Suprise suprise you hi jacking a thread to point score and then failing to acknowledge any of the other points I made. Marley made the request with a week of the transfer window left it was never going to be accepted. If he wanted to he could have kicked up a fuss like payet at West ham did but he hasn't he has got on with it.

 

The Lukaku deal has no relevance at all to Barnsley because -

Everton can go out & spend millions on a replacement - we can't.

Lukaku's issue isn't money, we know that already from his decision to join Everton. He wants to play regular football for a team in the champions league. He's waiting to see if Everton will make the signings that could see them challenge. He's not holding the club to ransom or demanding a transfer.

 

11 of their last 15 years have been spent in Leagues 1 and 2. To be fair to them they only had a limited number of tickets left out of all we had given them, they took a lot more to Man City a few days later.

 

They haven't played in League 2 in the last 15 years. They were always going to take more to city 15 quid a ticket and a chance of getting to Wembley. Like I said best turn out I've ever seen them bring to oakwell but it's been their best season for a long time.

 

But everton can't go out and get a replacement as easy as that. Lakaku is now imo one of if not the best striker in the premiership and still only 23 he wasn't when he first signed for them he has developed into that. They can spend millions but won't be able to replace with a striker as good. In the similar way we won't be able to get a replacement who can come in and be as good as conor who when he left was one of the best midfielders in the championship when he came he wasn't even the best in league one.

 

Just think if there had been a January transfer window in 1997 we wouldn't have gained promotion to the premier league because we would have sold the majority of that team . What a **** thought that is ! We simply need to be more pro-active with contracts at an earlier stage , otherwise Saturdays will become just a 'day out' with no hope or dream of us getting there again . Mid table Championship cant be our pinnacle .

 

They finished 4th in old third division(now League 2) in 2003/04

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003–04_Football_League#Third_Division

They averaged 10,528 that season as well, better than any of our League 1 seasons and a few of the Championship ones.

 

I made the point yesterday. In fact we strengthened our team in 1997 not weakened it and we were outsiders for promotion then as well

 

Football was more of a level playing field back then . No parachute payments that reward failure . You had to build your team throughout the season and could buy or sell at any time . Imagine any other business that was restricted to buying or selling their products in just two separate months of the year . January is the devil !

 

Let's be reight; if the offer we received for him had "turned the owners head" he'd have been sold regardless of how long was left in the transfer window.