Just when you thought this outrageous person could not get any worse

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  1. MDG

    MDG Well-Known Member

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    Struggling to find that quote in my paragraph Tyrone.
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    You get out of life what you put in
     
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    What's wrong about that statement? Unless you think that people should get things for nowt ?
     
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    Not what the Daily Mail (I wouldn't trust them if they told me my name!) and other mainstream media reported in December as a way to moan about the government still sending aid to India. Although with GDP increasing by 7.5% per year India will overtake within the next year if it hasn't already. :) France is debatable depending on the Exchange rates between the £, $ and Euro.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...h-planning-send-130-million-aid-end-2018.html
     
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    well said
     
  6. Gloria Stitts

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    Somewhat biased site, he's saying it a bit like Paddy Ashdown said he would eat his hat if we voted Brexit i.e. it won't be a failure, and why should it be?

    We would have been absolutely fine outside the EU, as Michael Foot said; "Don't Be Afraid!".

     
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    only because we won't leave. brexit won't happen - too many people now realise that all the bullshine spewed by the out campaign wasn't worth the bus it was written on.
     
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    tyrone1 Banned Idiot

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    It everyone is fortunate enough to be is a position help themselves are they
     
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    Serious question(s) (not a dig)
    1. Why do you say it has been a disaster? What is the criteria you are using for that?
    2. What do you believe are the (concrete) benefits of leaving?
     
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    This 2 faced piece of shyt Farage will **** off to America what ever happens .
    When this Brexit go's tits up Farage, Johnson, Davis, May and that little article that looks like a gremlin Gove should be put on trial, charge "P1llockin the public".
     
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    We will leave - The Tory right have got their teeth into it with the mandate given in the referendum. The only question is on what terms and of that I have no idea I dont think anyone has yet. There will be no appetite in Europe for having us back even if we change our minds now.

    Farage is OK though - he has the means to flee the country - something that will be denied to most of us with the end of free movement with Europe
     
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    What a bunch of doom-mongers!

    This country has long been a successful trading nation and this will continue.

    To say we can't cope on our own without the EU is simply ridiculous, we're not some small third world country.
     
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    But like Putin said . We are just a small island off the coast of Europe . Maybe just maybe our economic stability might be helped by the influx of immigrants that gives us almost full employment and therefore billions in taxes .
     
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    We have had a deficit on trade in goods and services for the last 60 years of on average, 1.4 billion pounds. As at January this year, it was 1.97 billion pounds. I am wondering how this squares with your statement?
     
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    I was born in 71 and remember it as a pretty depressing time. My main memories are strikes on the news and regular power failures but reading back we were pretty much a mess then. It took the best part of 20-30 years to get past that - not helped by the odd recession - until the banking crash and the ensuing (failed) race to austerity that followed. Now, we have a divided country that is turning its back on the opportunities in Europe for smaller opportunities elsewhere.

    If asked, I count myself as coming from Barnsley, being a Yorkshireman, being English/British and being European. From today, the last one is going against my will and we will lose all of the benefits and opportunities that come with it. Leaving the EU might be a success in the long term, but I suspect for the next 2-5 years (probably longer) there will be a lot of uncertainty in business. This might lead to some opportunities for work to split companies into British and European components, but in general business uncertainty leads to spending cutbacks. This will reduce the work available to me and in the event that my role is under threat I will have to look elsewhere. Given the uncertainty and the toxic attitude of the government (and many gloating leave voters), that elsewhere will probably be continental (Ireland would be first choice but my current employer has limited work there, so probably Holland or Sweden).

    My parents voted Leave, and while I respect that decision, there is a good chance that the long term cost of their vote (to them) will be the loss of regular contact with my part of the family. A pyrrhic victory indeed.
     
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    The left of the Labour Party were against EEC membership in 1975, Michael Foot, Barbara Castle, Tony Benn as were the SNP and Plaid Cymru.

    What happened?

    Those parties sold out to the globalist capitalists.

    Real socialists voted Leave.
     
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    Yes you can, they are elected. The main problem is that hardly anyone bothers to vote in the European elections so the accountability is squandered, not just in the UK but across Europe. This is akin to the American electorate not bothering to vote for their President. We have been fed the line that we have no influence on Europe - falsely - for donkey's years.
     
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    Factually incorrect, the public do not in any way elect the EU Commissioners or the EU president who ultimately make and pass all the EU laws. We purely elect MEP's. We have no control of the agenda of the commissioners.
     
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    Not so.

    I think you'll find that the Commission is appointed by the European Council which is elected by the European Parliament... Which is elected by us.
     

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