We'd have strolled into that top 6 had we kept hold of Conor etc till EOS

And then had we carried it into the playoffs and made it up they would all have been PL players instead of them all stuck in Championahip again next season.

So gutting to think what might have been. And what makes it worse is for all the hard work and effort were are clearly lacking quality now after having the heart ripped out of the team and it's going to get even worse if we lose Marley and Scowen who are our of contract at the end of the season. We have a massive rebuilding job and next season and we could struggle - not to mention all the stuff that may happen off the field.

We will never know now if we would have done it but the points dropped, the points dropped by those above us - I'm sure we wold be up there now - we were flying.

Gutting and depressing. But as Hecky says - time for new heroes... just hope he has some in mind. Even if he has they will need a season or two to get going like Conor did. I remember him getting subbed and bood off in his early games.

I can see next season being a difficult one.

 

Correct.

A long hard season looms. Unless we look to bring in proven quality, we need to find the right balance between said quality and lower league unproven hungry players, otherwise we will be next seasons Rotherham.
Feel sorry for Hecky as his job now is a thankless task. He is not getting the required support.


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It does need to be the right mix. We can't follow the blueprint with every signing if we want to stay up.

 

There's just no point going on about January. Even with Hourihane in the side though we were played off the park by Fulham, beaten by Reading, Leeds and Huddersfield

Even if we'd got in the play-offs, we'd still have to have won them! So if we'd lost the final for example we'd have lost all those players for absolutely no return and would've had an even bigger rebuilding task

And what's the point in worrying about the summer? We've got targets lined up already, and the current transfer policy has yielded some brilliant signings, so why change? Have faith in the club

 

I completely agree. Had we kept Conor, ****, Bree and Morsey and maybe added a player or two I'm convinced we'd have made the playoffs. It would have meant taking a gamble but i don't think it was a big gamble and the prize was worth it in my opinion.

 

Some are convinced we'd have done it. I said in January I didn't think we could be consistent enough, and I still believe that we'd have suffered a similar run had those players stayed. No one will ever know.

I'm pretty fed up with reading this phrase 'heart ripped out of the team' - apart from being really melodramatic, I just don't believe that the impact of Winnall's and Bree on our form could be so great.

And given we've replaced Morsey with a better player (albeit still a loanee), the only question to debate is whether keeping Hourihane would have made 10-15 points worth of difference. Again, we'll never I'm know, but as much as I loved the guy, I don't think he would.

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The heart has been ripped out of the team. It's pretty plain to see. It doesn't mean we can't replace it and even improve it but as it's stands we are significantly poorer than we were. The goals of Winnall ( whatever we think of him) and the creativity of Hourihane would have got us more points. It's hard to say how many and hard to know whether it was right to stick or twist but there's no point trying to hide the fact that if you flog your best players and don't replace them you get worse. It'll be a big summer for us. Get it wrong and Rotherham here we come. The post January results are pretty much Hill 2.0.

 

Next season could easily be a case of history repeating itself.

 

Agree Omen.
And sadly the more serious consideration is that it will all happen again.
This January transfer window has put into focus what's been happening at the club since Patrick Cryne took over the ownership.
The revolving door management strategy is very unlikely to provide the club with a chance of the Premeirship.

 

I had to check the date of the OP on this thread. I was sure this was a resurrection of an earlier doom monger's post, but no, we're in April and still we're banging on about it.
We'll never know what could have been but it's depressing, and pointless.

 

Even had we not made the play offs, losing them for nothing wouldn't have mattered because we would have had ample time to get their replacements in. Or alternatively, sign their replacements in January, and use them to integrate them into the team ready for next season, otherwise we are throwing inexperienced players straight into the deep end.


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We don't know if we've players already lined up or not. We thought we had Morsy lined up for example. Our current transfer policy this season has seen a drop in quality brought in. Maybe it's because it's harder to get championship quality players than league one or maybe the well of good players in our budget has dried up. Since last summer we've wasted money on guys who hardly get a game or a raft of poor loanees.

 

We are still banging on about it - AND it will not lie down now until:

1) Patrick Cryne sells the club

2) There is a directors statement to say that a better approach has been found to sort players contracts out.

3) We are proved wrong - and the revolving door management strategy actually works and we reach the Premeirship.
Note; not the playoffs, because if we do get to the playoffs and lose - then under the present leadership then that team would likely then be dismantled.

If Barnsley struggle next season - expect this topic to be still top of the agenda.

 

I agree the team has been diluted by the transfer window. No one can disagree with that, but I also don't think we would have got into the playoffs.







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And what if Patrick sells the club and things take a turn for the worse?

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I understand now, you wont be happy until we get back in the Premeirship (sic) and we won't achieve that without a new billionaire owner,
Well Nudger, we can all dream but that's not one I share with you.

 

Wrong.
It's about having some ambition and striving to be the best we can, and to do that we need to keep improving. We were doing well until the end of last season, and then it went tits up because we hadn't a clue what do when we achieved some sort of success.
Yes we have had a good season considering we all would have took safety first at the start of the season, but again we weren't prepared for success and showed in January that we are still amateurs off the filed in the Championship. That's why this coming summer is going to be massive for us in terms of what the future brings. More amateur work in the board room much like January will see us plummet back to league 1.


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All those "what ifs" stopped me taking the risk of changing my job for far too many years. You can be too cautious in life, believe me.

 

Does it still escape everybody's attention that the sales in January were sanctioned by an owner, who at the time was known to be seriously ill, now said to be terminally so?

Do we not think, all things considered, that he was maximising the income to the club to leave it as cash rich as he possibly could, should the worst happen?

We may question some of his decisions but I would hope nobody has any doubts about how much Patrick Cryne loves this club - he has consistently given, and has never sought to make any gain from it in return.

The club has been atrociously ran since late last year. That coincides with Patrick walking away for treatment.

The club needs somebody in as CEO/general manager/club secretary to run things.

We may or may not have a lot to spend in summer. We may or may not have a lot lined up.

But given the lack of off field management at the club, and the fact our owner and his family have understandably given the circumstances not given huge priority into changing that, we should be realistic.

It is rough on Hecky, it is disappointing, but there is time to get it sorted and in the circumstances I will not criticise.

I also don't believe we'd have made the playoffs regardless. We may have had four or five more points at this stage, we'd have been playing catch up still.




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