Who should I vote for?

For those who do not have the time or inclination to read each party's manifesto

http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/

Despite some reservations, I should vote Labour apparently

 

It also says I should vote labour marginally over Tory. I did this a few weeks ago and got the tories slightly over labour.

Definitely not the lib dems though.

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Me too but as expected the Green Party was ignored. Also surprised that UKIP wasn't included. 5 million people voted for these 2 parties at the last election.

 

Seems I'm a Lib Dem.

Which surprises me, as I have zero intention of voting for them.

 

But the entire reason for ukips existence has now gone

 

You can vote for May with her so called dementia tax and wanting to bring back fox hunting.

Corbyn who'd make small companies go bust making them pay tenner an hour they can't afford and has links to the IRA.

Farron who's had controversial views about abortions and doesn't accept the democracy that was Brexit so wants another vote to try and get what he wants.

Basically all parties are **** and a record low turn out would let them all know how out of touch they are.

 

I got The Tories.


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I want to come back to you about the Corbyn point, but there are others who will do a better job than me.

However, as for Farron ... are he or his policies particularly liberal or democratic? I think not personally.

 

A current conservative councillor was literally a member of the IRA Corbyn has flatly denounced the IRA at every turn this election yet what do the media talk about? I wonder why....

 

'Cons' for me (surprise surprise) but would have preferred 'none of these' Also some options in the 'Quiz' far too black and white. which resulted in Lib Dems coming above Labour for me which is a nonsense.
A low turnout as per Dreamboy 3000's post doesn't really send a clear enough message + people fought long and hard to get the vote, so for me not voting is not an option, nor is spoiling the paper. Domestic policy is overridden by the Brexit issue for many. Farron is an absolute no-no in respect of Brexit. Conservatives probably lack the competence to deliver "The best deal...blah! bla!" but am not sure that Labour have the Front bench to deliver. More importantly I am not sure, in spite of assurance, that their heart is really in it. Domestic policy they are both as bad....one seemingly recognising we are an Economic basket case but still bent on austerity and the other promising things we cannot afford without spending what we do not have.

I would like to see compulsory voting with a fine for failing to do so BUT ALL ballot to include a 'none of these' option.
That would send a much clearer message. I wonder if that could be made to force some sort of 2nd ballot if the % was high enough and make the parties rethink policies? Somehow I doubt it.

 

Something I read about this the other day:
In Book Six of The Republic, Plato describes Socrates falling into conversation with a character called Adeimantus and trying to get him to see the flaws of democracy by comparing a society to a ship. If you were heading out on a journey by sea, asks Socrates, who would you ideally want deciding who was in charge of the vessel? Just anyone or people educated in the rules and demands of seafaring? The latter of course, says Adeimantus, so why then, responds Socrates, do we keep thinking that any old person should be fit to judge who should be a ruler of a country?

Socrates’s point is that voting in an election is a skill, not a random intuition. And like any skill, it needs to be taught systematically to people. Letting the citizenry vote without an education is as irresponsible as putting them in charge of a trireme sailing to Samos in a storm.

Crucially, Socrates was not elitist in the normal sense. He didn’t believe that a narrow few should only ever vote. He did, however, insist that only those who had thought about issues rationally and deeply should be let near a vote.

We have forgotten this distinction between an intellectual democracy and a democracy by birthright. We have given the vote to all without connecting it to that of wisdom. And Socrates knew exactly where that would lead: to a system the Greeks feared above all, demagoguery.

dēmos ‘the people’ + agōgos ‘leading

Ancient Athens had painful experience of demagogues, for example, the louche figure of Alcibiades, a rich, charismatic, smooth-talking wealthy man who eroded basic freedoms and helped to push Athens to its disastrous military adventures in Sicily. Socrates knew how easily people seeking election could exploit our desire for easy answers.

 

I'm a Tory according to that.

Tally ho!

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Me too . I'm gonna do it again .

 

It's weird how Barnsley always votes overwhelmingly Labour yet we've got plenty of people who should apparently be voting Conservative in this thread.

I got overwhelmingly Labour unsurprisingly.

 

You are aware I presume that Corbyn successfully sued The Times in 1987 over-the IRA stuff. It was a lie then and is a lie now. Repeating stuff you have no knowledge or proof of is not useful. Dislike his policies and vote accordingly. Don't buy a lie. As for employers paying people a living wage. Who should pay if they can't? The state? That's what happens now. Why should I fund through tax credits a FTSE top 100 company like Capita to pay people low wages when they pay their chief executive millions?

This is the first election I can remember that actually offers the electorate a choice.

Voting should be compulsory but you should have the choice of none of the above.

 

Me too.

 

I came out as lib Dem but the questions are a bit useless

 

Came out strongly Labour which as a life long supporter is no surprise. I now have a dilemma. My vote should go to Dan Jarvis who I have a lot of time for and if Labour were nationally successful we would have Jeremy Corbyn as PM. I want my PM to drive the country forward in line with the parties agreed objectives and not their personal objectives where they are seen to be out on kilter with the parties. I don't believe I will get that from Corbyn as he has faltered twice to date for me on both Brexit and on defence and I can't see this leopard changing his spots.

 

In terms of Brexit more out of kilter than this?

http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/politics/read-one-speech-theresa-may-election-make/25/04/