But will you press the red button

And same ones foam at the gob about the IRA

 

You've completely missed the point.

Labour support the £150bn spend on trident as a deterrent. It's not a deterrent if the leader refuses to use it under any circumstances.

He should have the conviction to scrap it.




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What's North Korea done to York ? They all want to nuke it


Sent from the darkest recesses of a poisoned mind.

 

When questioned in Prime Minister Question Time about this, May said "Yes" she would. I have seen the clip.
She was obviously attempting to show how strong and stable she was !

 

If we were to draw up a list of organisations who should cause us to foam at the gob then the IRA would be on it.

I know this isn't the point you're making by the way. It's a very contentious and inflammatory subject to a lot of people and I suspect it will keep coming up.

 

Corbyn did say no first use of nuclear weapons, did not deny second use, but said he would protect the UK. What more do you want? Perhaps Boris in charge?

 

Frankie Boyle

"All the average British punter wants is to be paid less than £10 an hour and be incinerated in a nuclear holocaust, and good luck to em"

I can confirm me, my wife, and 4 year old daughter, all in York, don't want to nuke anyone

 

I'm not so sure, it's been played so much for so long its probably already factored in to most peoples thinking. Just answering all his points with "ah but the IRA" I think has little impact, every government since the 1960s spoke to them. By the time Corbyn was speaking to them they were pretty much being run by MI6.

 

Gotta love the Great British Public

"Why won't you condemn those who kill innocent people"

"why won't you kill millions of innocent people".


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I agree it is for us of a certain age for anyone under 30 not so much. It defined our era it doesn't define there's. luckily politicians met and brokered peace.

My take is that Corbyn a life long pacifist is unlikely to support any terror organisation. He is likely to want peace. He is likely to look to promote peace. If his meetings as a non government minister were so scandalous why not Douglas Hird's or Willie Whitelaws both meeting IRA figures in the 70s when not in power.


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Assuming that Trident is a 'defensive' weapon system I suspect, for most of us, the question of what the PM does is irrelevant as most of us would have kissed our asses goodbye and will be plucking harps on a cloud up above.

 

Mud sticks and rightly or wrongly this is something that is going to keep biting him. He wasn't the PM at the time he was speaking to them, he wasn't even an MP with any real influence.

They were certainly infiltrated at a high level by our security services and this was, in my opinion, one major factor in the IRAs willingness to start speaking to the British government.

 

Much as I like many of Corbyn's policies, however he likes to portray it now, Seamus Mallon a highly respected SDLP leader and one of the true architects of the peace process, said words to the effect that Corbyn supported the Provisional IRA.
Interesting article below.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/6cuizv/what_is_the_truth_behind_corbyn_and_the_ira/

 

I wouldn't call him a terrorist sympathiser because I don't think he is but his links to certain terrorist organisations do leave question marks against his past. For instance:

He attacked the Anglo Irish agreement at an official IRA commemorative ceremony.

He was a senior member of an editorial that praised the Brighton bombing.

He attended a ceremony that honoured IRA members who were killed trying to blow up a police station.

He refused to condemn Republican terrorism. He did condemn 'all' acts of terrorism during the troubles but he would not single out the IRA. If I was asked if I condemned Republican terrorism I could answer, unequivocally, that I did in a heartbeat.

As I said I don't believe this makes him an IRA sympathiser but the links between him (and two of his senior shadow cabinet MPs) and the IRA do raise questions that, in my opinion, have a legitimate right to be asked.

 

He's already said he'll take in the views of the party- needs to listen to advice.

Democracy not a dictatorship

 

I get the impression that all this mud-slinging by a Tory Party who have nothing positive to say about their own plans is having little traction. It is mainly in the past, and it's not that long ago that Thatcher regarded Nelson Mandela as a terrorist.

 

They would. I admire his stance on it, I couldn't nuke people.

What is baffling is that he's willing to spend 150bn on it and will never use. He should have conviction in his decisions and scrap it.



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Corbyn's position seems pretty straightforward. To achieve something you have to get people you don't agree with to discuss things otherwise no progress can be made. Seems the right way forward to me and history proved him right.


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