Diane Abbot

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  1. Dan

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    I could be mistaken, so apologies if so... didn't Corbyn suggest even if defeated, he'd remain as Leader?
     
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    He could retain his seat but political commentators are saying that rebellions are breaking out throughout the Tory
    party. Main cause apparently is Theresa May's performance and her reluctance to join in the televised
    debates. Predictions are that May could be ousted even if they do win the election. Apparently some southern based voters disallusioned with her reluctance to admit sudden changes in policy and removal of police from our streets have not been a contributory factor in the problems we are facing at this time are being told by their Tory candidates " vote for me not her."!!!

    Pundits predict that if they do form the next Government the new Cabinet could see Hunt being removed due to his inept handling of the Doctors contract situation and the NHS in general. Another casualty could be Justine Greening Secretary of State for Education. She is unlikely to survive due to her opposition to grammar schools . Observers also comment on the fact that the relationship between leading members of the party and the Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond is now so toxic he could well be removed from office as early as the coming weekend.!!
     
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    Grammar schools, like Brexit, are one of those policies that the government are pursuing in avoidance of facts and the majority of expert opinion.

    There is a decent possibility that May will take the record for shortest ever PM. I believe she has to last about a month after the election to avoid that unwanted record.
     
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    I'm not a betting man, but I'll be checking the odds on that.
     
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    She's revealed that she's got Type 2 Diabetes. If it's not under control your blood sugar levels rise
    which can lead to erratic behaviour or in some cases coma.

    She has said she was particularly hurt by the Prime Ministers comments when after going without
    food on the campaign trail and during interviews she committed the " gaffes" she did that saw her being
    withdrawn from the front line.

    Mrs May suffers from a form of the complaint herself and has to inject herself
    up to 6 times each day so do you think she should have been a little more tolerant
    because she did not know about Ms Abbotts illness or was she right to criticise.?
     
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    I don't particularly like Diane Abbott. She has never come across particularly well to me though she is apparently an excellent mp.

    Her treatment in the press and by the Conservative party in the election was shameful and just the sort of dog whistle politics that prevent real issues being discussed. I don't know if the coverage was racist but it was certainly misogynistic and woman hating.

    May's outright lies about her are not appropriate for a political leader and I believe have been raised as a criminal investigation.

    Labour should also have perhaps some responsibility although in many ways Corbyn's loyalty is admirable presumably knowing about the illness he should have removed her to protect her much earlier.



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    It must be right that she is a good constituency MP - she boosted her majority to 35,000. However, it seems to me that the criticism she attracted was entirely down to the fact that she gave the impression on more than one occasion of having no mastery whatsoever of her brief. It's hardly a secret that the Tories would attack any major Labour spending pledge, so the failure to have the cost of the extra policing at your finger tips when you are pitching for home secretary is inexcusable. It suggests either laziness or incompetence. I can't accept that it was down to her diabetes - which is reportedly a milder version (Type 2) than Theresa May's (Type 1). In any event, Diane Abbott went on to do further appearances that week. I think (although I'm not sure) even on the same day.

    Failing to learn from her LBC appearance, she appeared on Sky with Dermot Murnaghan and tried to bluff her way through discussing a report of which she evidently had no knowledge. Murnaghan was in fact quite gentle with her, considering her performance. I can't see anything in the remarks which preyed on her gender or her ethnicity. It wasn't needed, given that she did everything to compromise the perception of her competence - notwithstanding her educational and civil service record. It's to be hoped that Corbyn replaces her in his shadow team and allows her to revert to being a good constituency MP. Lets' face it, Labour's task is difficult enough as it is.
     
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    Like many of the current batch of freeloaders she's out of her depth and not up to the job. As such she should be dumped on the scrap heap with no severance pay and only the pension she's accrued by fortunately clinging onto the old boys number she's clung onto thus far.
    Very few industries would continuously look after you this well if you underperform, a bit like football managers.
    I personally believe if he'd have sacked her with 6 weeks to go then he might have had a fighting chance.
     
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    Unlike football managers where the fans have no say - MP's are to some extent firable by the general public.
    Now I dont like Dianne Abbot and I dont think she is a good choice as a front bench MP, but her constituents differ she has a huge majority which she increased significantly in the election so to say she should be dumped on the scap heap is a bit much.

    Also dont forget one of the reasons she was promoted to the front bench was most of the experienced MP's had a hissy fit that their choice wasnt leader and resigned en mass.

    There are far more MP's deserving of the free loader accusation than Abbot - though I think most MP's from all parties actually do work hard
     
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    Diane Abbott had a *majority* only slightly smaller in her constituency than the number of people that voted for Theresa May in hers. Whether she is a good shadow cabinet minister is up for debate (and she did do several interviews on the day of her first gaffe and made the mistake once), but she does appear to be well respected in her constituency - who have had the power to remove her several times, but have increased her majority instead on all but two occasions (out of 8 in total).
     
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    How bad is her opposition?
     
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    One of them was Oliver Letwin, although you can make your own mind up about how bad he is...
     
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    And incredibly, she retains her shadow cabinet post. Have we already reached peak-Corbyn?
     

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