DUP to get £1bn over 2 years

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You're absolutely right that there appears to be no obvious candidate who doesn't come with baggage of some kind. Boris probably sees himself as the natural heir but I really don't see him as PM.

Personally I'd like to see somebody from a working class background putting themselves forwards and I don't just mean Gove. It's really difficult to see an obvious successor at the minute which might just be the only hope that May is clinging to.

 

What's your view on Ruth Davidson? Seems to tick some of the boxes.


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I really like her and I believe she'd make a good leader in Westminster but unfortunately she's ineligible right now. Whether that changes is probably going to be dictated by her and her ambitions in Scotland rather than the Tory party.

She may see finishing the job in Scotland as the next step in her career before she turns her focus on the job South of the border.

 

I've been following and enjoying the input of David Lammy

 

I'm a massive fan of Barry Gardiner. But they seem few and far between the good ones b


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But don't we already pay for scotlands excessive dole money and social housing as it is?

 

If Labour can ditch Dugdale and get someone in place that Scottish voters can actually stand Scotland will be interesting in the next election.


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Oh I don't know. Maybe you'd like to expand on your comment an enlighten me. You seem to have a bit of knowledge on the subject.

 

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Assuming the tories fail in parliament along the way and a GE has to be held and they lose heavily to Labour. Does this money still have to be given to N. I. and the DUP? And what if the DUP were to lose all their seats in the GE? Is this deal still binding.

 

It will be interesting to see how The Sturgeon performs over the next few years too. It appears to be more a battle of Nationalism v Unionism than Left v Right up in Scotland. Like you say its going to be interesting.

 

You would assume it's only in place as long as the Tory party remains in power. Similarly if the DUP lost their
seats in the General Election the deal would fall to the ground because what the confidence and supply agreement
does in essence is "purchase " ten votes on the Governments side every time they are attempting to get tricky issues through the House of Commons.

One significant point for me , was that neither Theresa May or Arlene Foster signed the agreement.
Gavin Williamson Chief Whip for the Tory Party and Sir Jeffrey Donaldson Chief Whip for the DUP signed instead.
That means when they finally consign Theresa to the "dustbin" of political history ( before the Tory Conference in October)
her replacement won't have to sign a new agreement.

The tactics are very clear. Put all the unsavoury political " baggage" at her feet, ride out the storm over high rise flats,
"incorrect assumptions" over cuts, pensions, winter fuel, dementia tax et al and blithely carry on as though none of it ever happened.!

Then a brand new squeaky clean marionette in a blue tie will be put up to address the adoring masses at Manchester Central
at Conference in October to herald the glorious dawn of a brand new "Strong and Stable" period of Conservative and Unionist Government and all those gullible short sighted punters in the Shires the South East and the true blue South West will take the bait hook line and sinker..... yet again.!!!!

 

Thanks for that reply mate. You really have made my day.

 

Doesn't include the abolition of tuition fees. That was going to cost over £11b.

In fact, they've done well to come up with any figures, seen as the Labour manifesto didn't' come out until two weeks after these figures were suppose to have been published.

 

She is likeable and most parts it's because she can be herself .
Don't know whether she could stomach having to defend the ultra right wing of the party though as a leader would have to especially with their anti gay rights section.

 

Corbin would chow her up and spit her art just like May who the tory's said was too strong for Corbin he's made her look very week these Tory's are frighten to death of Corbin. You just can't beat a man that tell's the truth.

 

Doing the deal with the DUP who are anti-abortion and anti-gay in my view would deter Ms Davidson from putting herself
forward to lead the Tory party were it possible for her to do so of course.
She has already voiced her opposition in a series of tweets on her opposition to the DUP's gay rights views.

Hadn't realised that Sinn Fein want the DUP leader Arlene Foster removing from office before they resume taking part
in discussions on the government of Northern Ireland. They are convinced that the Province lost a half billion pounds due to a botched green deal initiative and they hold Ms Foster personally responsible.

That could explain why the DUP Chief Whip Sir Jeffrey Donaldson signed the deal instead of Ms Foster. Like Theresa May
who also didn't sign Ms Foster is therefore probably being lined to be removed at some point going forward.

The deal is £1 billion with a possible £500 million later which shows that money can be found by the Government when its expedient to support their political agenda and that austerity these past seven years could have been purposefully "engineered."

£1.5 billion could have been diverted to pay for essential services instead of being used as a bribe to buy votes.
It would enable staff in the NHS to enjoy a 3% pay increase, we could employ 68,128 trainee firefighters on a salary
of £22,071 pa, provide 9,000 Tower blocks with a fire sprinkler system, build circa 106 new schools at £14 million each,
pay for 18 months of free school meals and provide around 25,000 new social homes to ease the acute housing crisis.

Not only does the deal appear to be shabby but with no regard being shown to investment in Scotland and Wales it's also reckless because in showing bias towards the DUP the Government who are supposed to be impartial could run the risk of derailing the Northern Ireland peace process.

 

Where do you think the money for student loans comes from, not to mention the fact that the majority don't get paid back anyway

 

The £1 billion deal with the DUP now done the Government have surely caused their new supply
and confidence partners some credible reason to be concerned.?

The DUP are totally against abortion and at present if a female in Northern Ireland wanted a termination
she had to travel to the UK and pay for it herself.

The Government has announced today that in future they will pay in full for any female from Northern Ireland
who wants to come to the UK for an abortion.

Incidentally the decision as to whether to scrap the 1% pay freeze on public sector employees was defeated by
14 votes in Parliament so our nurses and other public sector workers will have to wait for the independent pay review body
to deliberate in due course after which the Government will make a decision.!

As Theresa said " nothing has changed, nothing has changed."!