Madeleine McCann

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  1. Rosco

    Rosco Well-Known Member

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    It was removed from sale because it contained material subject to a Portuguese libel case, that case has now (probably )been resolved and so the book can go back on sale.

    You are making out that the book has been banned from the UK by unseen governmental powers as it contains the 'unpalatable for the establishment' truth, that's not the case though is it.

    It was released in Portugal, then subject to a libel case which the McCanns initially won, so the book was removed from sale.

    A subsequent case in a higher court eventually threw out that result, the book went back on sale but no UK publisher has published it, for what reason we don't know, so don't go making up reasons.

    Personally, I think the McCanns are in part responsible for their childs death, I've seen the apartment they stayed in and the restaurant they ate at and no way would I leave a child so far away, what they did was awful.

    But I'm not going to go round making stuff up and twisting the facts.
     
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  2. Donny Red

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    That's exactly what they did with me. They offered me a cup of tea and a ***. A policeman watched my every move
    I suspect to see if my hands were trembling. The other one then accused me of fiddling the figures in the fruit machine takings book. They finally tracked the Steward down to somewhere in Scotland.
    He'd engaged a top lawyer who had apparently defended the Black Panther so in their minds they then knew he was guilty.
    Their attitude to the rest being questioned seemed to change after that. I remember saying to my mate at the
    time I would hate to have gone through it if I had have done something wrong.
    It was very unpleasant and of course it got others around me thinking I had something to hide which didn't sit well with me.
     
  3. Andy Mac

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    Mate, what have I made up? I have no idea if the book contains unpalatable stuff for the establishment. I have read most. My sole opinion is that the more UK folk who read it would accept that it was a well investigated case with a 'highly probable' outcome. WHich is the resons the McCs don't want it on general sale here. I have not 'made up' a single reason why it is not yet on general sale.

    Cheers
     
  4. Donny Red

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    As stated previously it's a tragedy. When our kids were growing up if we went out for
    a drink to the local our lass would phone the babysitter at least twice to see if they were OK
    and truth to tell she couldn't wait to get home to be with them.

    You would have thought with all the brass the McCanns must have been earning they didn't
    hire one of the resorts on site babysitters that fateful night, a decision that will probably haunt them forever.
     
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    Sorry, that wan't aimed at you, but at conspiracy theorists in general.
     
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    I don't know what happened to Madeline. She strikes a chord with me as she has/had the same very rare eye condition as my little girl who is 5. What I do know is that there is no way on earth I would have left her alone in that complex. No way on earth.

    The only other thing I know is that if they had been a working class couple from Kendray they would have been treated very differently and been charged with child neglect if nothing else.
     
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    They weren't left I attended.
    It's a myth
    Read the files
     
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    Rosco.
    Gonçalo Amaral's book is freely available on line to read.

    If you read it , you will see that the Portuguese were very thorough in their investigation and came to the conclusion that Andy refers to above.

    I have read his book more than once.

    It was also stated that the children were NOT left alone.
    I do believe the name of the senior officer was Paulo Rebelo
    His analysis can be found in PJ Files.

    Someone out of the Tapas 7 was "Ill" every night and was allegedly looking after all the children in one apartment.

    The Tapas Seven are not allowed to speak to the press about events pertaining to the cade., one of them referred to the D notice app!ied.

    Without the children being allegedly left alone, there could be no abduction !

    The window shutters were not damaged and the only finger print found out on the window was that of Kate McCann.

    The window shutters were examined closely and could not be opened from the outside.

    Kate McCann refused to answer 48 questions relating to her missing daughter , despite being told by the PJ that it would seriously hamper the investigation.

    Gordon Brown and Tony Blair were both involved and the couple were able to call Brown personally. They also spoke to Cherie Blair.

    The PJ Files show the huge inconsistencies in all their statements, including the Tapas Seven.

    They all refused to attend a reconstruction.

    This is all to be read and seen in the official PJ Files

    It is certainly not conspiracy theory .
     
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  9. LDR

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    That was disproved in a Panorama documentary, even though I am on your side.
     
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    Don't even know why they took their children. All the days leading up to her disappearance they only spent a hour a day with them at dinner time and evening. the rest of the time they were dumped with the hotel staff in the kids club or left in room. Madalen was supposed to have been upset most the time missing her parents.
     
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    What a load of crap this thread is. Anybody believing what the Portuguese police and Amarel have to say are daft!
    Does anybody know how many months (yes months) it actually took to close the apartment off as a crime scene? Does anybody know how many times the same room was rented out before it was officially closed off as a crime scene? The Portuguese police were incompetent and threw away any chance of finding out who took Maddie.

    If you have any interest in this case I suggest you listen to the Thinking Sideways podcast episode on the subject. Certainly an eye opener, especially if you are in the Parents did it camp.


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    Not a problem fella.
    FWIW with regards to conspiracy theories ......... I just leave them at that. There is talk of GM using his influence because of a working relationship with Gordon Browns brother, therefore he 'has something' over Gordon or even the Royals. There is talk that Madeleine was part of a bizarre experiment, based on his work with COMARE. There is talk of a peedo ring and that MM's 'Lolita' photo was taken as part of that. So many others, most of which I won't give the time of day. Cos that's what they are - conspiracies.

    Where my interest comes from is the facts. There was no abduction, nor evidence of any. That is proven. There are inconsistencies in statements, even glaringly changed statements. Again, fact. There is incriminating stuff on the web that just disappears (try find Aunty Philomena's Sky interview saying KM was to be charged with accidental death - one of hundreds that have disappeared ).But it is Eddie & Keela's evidence that is key to me. That cannot be disputed and is the basis of my belief that MM is no longer with us.

    I have nothing at all against 'parents like KM & GM'. It matters not a jot to me if they are working class, stuck up snobs, professional elite. And I don't buy into conspiracies for conspiracies sake.*


    * The 'Paul is dead' conspiracy is fantastic. Entertaining, intruiging and from an age before digital media. But ultimately ****** :)
     
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    Haha.
    I watched that Panarama programme and the whole programme has been discredited since.
    Depending on what you believe of course !
     
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    Look at the last line of your post and then take a good look at yourself in the mirror.
     
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    Fair play, but can't help myself when faced with disinformation about an issue I feel strongly about.

    Kind regards
    A Sick Individual.
     
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    If it's right what someone has said on here previously that we are being "watched" by "others" who
    then do not post their views on any of the comments made , I for one am not going to give any further opinion
    regarding Madeleine McCann because I'm not exactly sure what happened to the poor little kid.
     
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