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I have looked it up. I can find nothing to support your claims however I can find a lot that counters your claims.

 

I think you have a choice.

You have to accept that this is how it is and won't change whilst this regime is in charge, and see the bigger picture which is this is just another season in the cyclical history of our football club, and things can change very quickly.

Or, just decide it's not for you if it doesn't always work out as you want it and find something else to do on a match day.

We all have that choice.

Hecky will go eventually. Either sacked or poached, and we'll carry on. We'll have more relegations, promotions and near misses at both ends.

Unless we are bought out by someone who can afford to take us to the next level.

 

Then the law must have changed out of all recognition since I completed my studies.

 

I think you're saying that it's possible to have a wage drop clause *if* it is tempered by the presence of a release clause?

 

That is what I am saying, yes.

 

Ok ta

 

I'm not sure as the role of head coach is unclear to me. It would seem from the players we have signed that we are just buying players with resale value then asking hecky to coach them into our system. We are in danger however of coaching the talent out of gifted players by giving them roles they are not good at. An English football problem imo. If you're not going to play players in their best position then don't sign them. Moncur the classic example but we have signed similar players in mcgeehan and mallan and our system can only accommodate one of them and that is at the cost of stifling their main threat. If hecky has the final say then he has got this wrong imo and should change the system to get the best out of what we've got. With 4-4-2 we are reliant on a loanee kid for goals

 

How long ago did you do your studies into professional football contracts?

 

Is anything on top of what PC put in 'his money' though, or at least does he see it that way? Surely it's the club's money. I'd say this was right when he was buying players with his own money which he definitely did, but now we've had over £20m of income from player sales since and including the Stones money?

At least the last £10m of transfer income is surely 'the club's'?

I don't know whether he has final say still or not, but I reckon he sees the money as the club's not his, so whether he trusts his employees (Watkins, Ganaye, Hecky) to do the right deals now, especially considering his health, I don't know.

 

Don't want to go all Hemsy, but the extremely accurate Football Manager game has long had relegation wage drops in contracts.

 

Why would he need to? As the infallible financial and now legal voice on here, you have told him the correct position.

 

They were not that specific. They related to the Truck Acts and the legislation and legal precedence based upon those acts.

 

And the truck acts mention relegation release clauses?

 

No, they do not. I inferred the position on relegation clauses from my knowledge on cases law etc in relation to similar legal precedent and judgement.

Just how long do you think that you can keep this up, and what is more to the point, why do you believe it is worth the effort.

 

What relevance do truck laws have to football relegation clauses? You are the one who made up this claim that football clubs routinely break employment law, I have provided examples of how this isn't the case but instead of you providing ANY example of clue as to why it is the case you instead do your usual and remind us all how intelligent you are and how thick we all are.

 

And the only person who really understands tactics don't forget

 

The truck laws were repealed anyway.

 

I don't dispute your legal assertion that inserting a pay reduction into a salary is not legal, but there are many examples where bonus schemes based on company overall performance impacts on the total emolument of individual employees.

I worked in IT/ management role for a major telecoms company and my annual pay was based on a basic salary, plus a bonus based on two components - individual performance related (itself based on a number of components) and the overall performance of the company. This on one occasion resulted in a considerable drop in total income due to the company profit element being eliminated for that year due to circumstances beyond the control of the employees.
I see no reason that a two tier bonus system cannot be applied legally to a football club employee since it is easy to demonstrate that a drop in division has a corresponding drop in revenue. The difficulty, as you say, involves a release clause should the player find the drop in pay unacceptable. However, unlike most companies, salaries for specific roles are individually negotiable so the bonus component could be higher for players you are -how should we say this - not quite so worried about or have not performed should they not accept the drop in salary and a higher (guaranteed) salary for key players to ensure they dont suffer the same penalties and reduce their incentive to leave.

Easier said than done though in these days of player/agent power.

 

You are being very bitter for no good reason. I have no axes to grind with you. I have not decided whether to continue with Minority Report, but If I do, there is no reason for you to read it if you really hate it.

 

I conceded that performance bonuses are different.

The real problem is that SuperTyke does not like me for some reason and has set himself the task of finding something wrong with each and every thing I post, presumably on the grounds that he thinks it will wind me up. I consider that given our common interest in the well-being of Barnsley FC, it is a very strange thing to want to do.

Ah well. Each to their own as the saying goes.