Chinese Takeover

I want our best players to leave every season for better contracts elsewhere that we can't match - that's being a proper club .

The only result in foreign ownership is the club ruined and losing its identity and that.

Penury rules.

 

This can work two ways tho... Anyone who looks down their nose at a takeover. Would be welcomed, and their money, with open arms at grass root level.... You are also free to go elsewhere...

 

Right way? What's that then?

 

Right way? What's that then?

 

Exactly. Where's the identity in losing the team every 12-18 months?

 

Can't wait for some cover and a heated seat in the West Lower

 

Each to their own and all that, but I don't think I could disagree more,

Yes it is a business, but it is so much more than that. The day it becomes just business is the day we should all just pack it in and spend our time & money elsewhere. Football is tribal, its about pride in your team, your town, the 'tribe you identify with. I don't need to be in a particular league in order to take pride in my team. I take great pride right now in the way we are doing things. I feel that right now our club is one of a select few in the top two tiers that has any soul. Right now I believe we are on a path to becoming a shining light to other clubs as to how football can recapture its essence. We co*ked up with the contracts a couple of years ago, but to my mind the 'plan' is starting to bear fruition. I do believe we are on the road to self sufficiency. We may have to take a step back before progressing again, but I'm willing to be patient.

It will be a sad day indeed when the prosperity of this town relies on the fortunes of the club being in the top tier of english football. I can see no lasting legacy from the last time we were there. I don't see Burnley escaping from the economic downturn because they happen to be in the prem?

Most on here are asking for a change because we can't compete in the championship! They want to see more money being thrown at a solution. I think that will only get worse should we ever get back to the top tier.

I guess we are all different and see the way forward differently. I just want to carry on being proud of my club. Becoming part of the premier league is not something that will do that for me. They represent all that is wrong with football. You can take that as me being a Luddite, i don't think I am, I just don't see paying footballers the obscene amount of money as being progression My view is if something is wrong just because everyone else is doing it doesn't make it right. At some point someone has to try an approach other than just throwing money at it. It would make me immensely proud if that was my club.

Success for me doesn't depend on how high up the league we are.

 

Have billionaire capitalists suddenly gone up in your estimation, Redstar?

 

It's irrelevant.

 

What is success for you then? Not spending more than we have?

 

Im happy for this deal to go through aslong as all chinese takeaways in the barnsley area offer a 50% discount on matchdays when you show your season ticket. If not they can fvck right off

 

Yes, definitely.
If the only way we can get higher in the league is by spending more than everyone else then in my eyes that's not success. If success is only measured in terms of league position then as Skryptic suggests, we might as well all go to watch a Manchester team.

Success for me is sticking two fingers up to likes of Villa and competing against them. Sure they'll be higher in the league than us in the long term term, but we will have earned our place, wherever that might be. Success for me is taking a group of lower league players and making them better. Real success for me is having other teams look at us and say 'well how come they don't need to spend £70M plus to have a good side. Why can't we do that'.

We had a bad day today, and they'll probably be more of that to come, but as far as I'm concerned we are already successful. Success for me is belonging to a club that has a soul, that stands for something other than who has the biggest wallet.

 

So if that's the case, with respect, why haven't you already packed in?

 

There seems to be an assumption that foreign investment means that we will suddenly be the next Chelsea or Man City, throwing money around like confetti and buying success. The alternative view sees it like Blackburn where the owners saw it as a way to make money that backfired).

Maybe the new owners will come in and carry on like we are. Bringing players in from lower leagues, training them up to produce a team and instead of splashing on transfer fees just investing more on wages to keep the best players. Aiming for survival this year, mid-table next year and then a run towards the play-offs the year after.

At the moment it is all speculation. Lets see what happens before taking our bat and balls home.

 

Two reasons

1. As I said, it is more than a business to me, its in my blood. Doubt I could remove it even if I wanted to.
2. Again as I said, I think we are successful at the minute.

I think you might have misread some of what I said. I'm happier with things now than I have been in practically all the years I've been following them (a lot).
I was arguing that for those who count success purely in terms league position, and see BFC as a business, that logically they might be better off going to Manchester
I don't want them to go, and I don't for one minute believe they really do see it that way (otherwise why would they be on here on a Saturday night debating), but it is the logical conclusion if that's all it is to you.

 

I like to think that I generally look for the good in people, but for the life of me I can't think why some guy from america/china would want to come and invest some of his hard earned cash in Barnsley football club unless it is to see a return on his investment. Now wanting a return on his investment is not a bad thing in and of itself, but given that without selling our better assets we lose money every year, why would a relative stranger be happy to carry on as we are but subsidise higher wages in a gamble that we might make it to the premier league. 3 teams go up and 3 come down each year. Those that come down have a cash pot in the region of £100M. It would be some gamble on the part of the investor.

 

Move to West Stand Upper .
Apart from the stanchions it is the best place to be .
Warm wooden seats and flooring , the weather elements rarely intrude , high enough view to see play pan out and behind the dug outs for in match entertainment .
As opposed to east stand upper (need winter woollies there even in august ,yes I have experienced it ) , or East lower , waterproofs or sunglasses , South stand , total disproportionate view , you don't know whether the ball is coming or going .

 

If we don't get some investment I fear we will just be a yoyo club between league one and the championship. If the consortium's intentions are good they could take us to the next level hopefully.

 

Maybe donny gate was breached and bettered in barnsley in the 60s....Nobody ever wondered why norwich union .....oakwell investments ( nothing to do with bfc) to name but two own so much property and land in the town centre....lol......

 

I think it's a lot more than a rumour mate