You know as well as I do that he meant it didn't matter that they weren't wearing a poppy. Personally I didn't know that any were wearing poppies.
To which many might reply, myself included, "You are wrong.". Be careful not to assume that your views echo the stance of others - individuality - this is the true representation of democracy.
When did this bs of footballers having to wear a poppy come in ?? Wonder what statistics are for people wearing a poppy is.. especially since it'sgot politicised
My late uncle served in WW2, saw loads of action and yet would never talk about it.... he also got injured whilst throwing himself in front of a woman and child when a bomb went off....he was badly scared in his chest area ...luckly for him he didnt lose sight nor limb...that said He was once in the Cross Keys at Stairfoot ( where McDonalds now stands ) when a bloke came in selling Poppies. ..he refused the guys offer of buying one, stating . ...Im sorry but if the Government were as fast to look after all those who came back home injured or the family members of all those that lost their lives and didnt for that instance, were then as fast has they were to call everybody up and pack them off to war then there would be no reason for the poppy collection each year ...The guy then came out with ...Yes its barstewards like you who my family members fought and died for .. According to the story my uncle then grabbed him, picked him up threw him over the bar and then followed him over and cracked him...saying...if i thought it would bring everybody back who dropped at the side of me then id buy every ******* poppy you could make..... He never bought a poppy in all the time he was alive stating the Government sent us over but failed to take care of us when we returned.... Id hazard a guess the same takes place to some extent ...they train the lads to kill and then fail to look after them when its either physical or mental problems they suffer from They just leave it up to the rest of us to be charitable or in most cases ;leave the squaddies to fend for themselves..hence we have too many squaddies on the streets who cant handle civilian life.
I've read his views on the wearing of a poppy and I completely respect his opinion, even if I completely disagree with him. The bugler at Oakwell yesterday was very good. As I've mentioned in another thread he was as good as many military buglers I've heard.
"Be careful not to assume that your views echo the stance of others" - That was not, and is not my intention...
I couldn't care less whether anyone wears a poppy or not but the one next to the badge on Barnsley FC twitter account looks good. It's a nice simple but effective design.
I don't wear a poppy and haven't for years. I probably never will again. I do respect the silence and have been to a number of memorial services in the past (but not recently). Its not that I don't respect the sacrifices of the generations that were involved in the World Wars. However, I don't think anyone is left from WWI and the WWII veterans will all be gone in the next few years. Maybe it is time to put it in the history books where it belongs, like the Napoleonic Wars or the crusades. I'm not entirely sure any of the wars the country has been involved with since WWII have been "just" and it should be the responsibility of the government to look after their professional soldiers that were injured while on active duty and their families - including the mental health. I believe that a large number of homeless people in the UK are ex-soldiers.
‘The enemy within’ Thatcher told the world of the striking British Miners. My dad a miner and his 3 sons. My dad was 9 years old when his dad died in Italy during WW2. Shortly after arriving there following the North Africa campaign and the defeat of Rommell. Dad’s dad,a miner who could’ve stayed home and continued to work in the pit, but decided to fight for his ‘country’ Dad’s younger brother who served 21years in the Army, and was injured several times during the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland. Dad and his 3 sons, The enemy within. Incidentally, I choose to wear a poppy and don’t have a problem with those that choose not to, as has already been mentioned, our society (at the moment) allows this.
i dont really mean that, but thought they would have shown some respect for the fallen. if they did fall of then its not their fault...
I've no problem with people choosing to wear a poppy or not. It's the good that people try to do and think in life that counts in my view, not the displays they are pressured into making.
Interesting thread. Notice our habitual silence breakers have lost out this year what with Scotland having an International v Holland on Friday night. Now the sceptic in me wonders whether this was deliberate planning.