"Stand by your Nan.." ... State Pensions O/T

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  1. RedKestrel

    RedKestrel Well-Known Member

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    Never knew this
    "Stand by your Nan. The German State Pension is £ 26,000 French State Pension is £ 15,811 British State Pension? Just £ 7,488 "

    http://nyebevannews.co.uk/german-st...ate-pension-15811-british-state-pension-7488/
     
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    I would hazard a guess that they pay a higher rate contribution than we do?
     
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    It’s more to do with the percentage of GDP allocated to fund it. Thatcher is responsible as with most things. It used to run at the same rate as Germany’s at about 12 percent she reduced it and it’s now about 5 percent.
     
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    Do they also pay for a third of the country to enjoy life on the dole watching jezzer and suing the NHS?
     
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    Keep net at the ready then? :)
     
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    With out a cost of living example how can you possibly make ab informed decision
     
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    A third of the country so that would be 23 million unemployed. You are the love child of Phillip Hammond and Dianne Abbot with that mathematical aptitude.
     
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    Thanks a bunch JC. The image of that particular intimate union is now etched in my memory and I don't think I will ever be able to erase it.
     
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    Many factors come into consideration you're quite right. Sweden's state pension is over 25,000£ but they pay high contributions for the privilege. It also costs over double to drink and eat out over there than here too. South Africa's state pension is only 1,044£...... but one must bare in mind the average annual salary there is only 7,421£.
    Britain's state pension however is one of the lowest in the developed world. There are many reasons for this, but it didn't happen overnight did it? Government after government after government of whatever persuasion have overseen the state pension.
     
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    Social Security Act 1980 link broken between pension increase and average earnings. Loss to pensioners roughly 30 quid a week. Most problems in modern Britain link back to Thatcher.
     
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    Roll on Jezzer .
    He will put everything right .
     
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    That's because we haven't had a progressive pm govt since Harold Wilson's .
    The most progressive we have had was McDonald's in 20s 30s and Atlee's in 40s
    Since the we've either had down right selfish bstds or utter twonks who have put party first and self promotion.
    The Media destroy anyone who dares to be radical these days.
     
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    Yep a draconian 'dictatorship' that was hell-bent on drawing the state away from it's responsibilities to it's peoples: pure conservative ideology. Blair didn't do us any favours here either though did he? Like I said, this is a long historical issue.
     
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    I agree about Blair but the key issue Is the 1980 SSA.
     
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    Act's get amended: all government's since are accountable.
     
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    All govts since have been Thatcherite.
     
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    Of course they have, even the 8 years of labour government from 97 to 2005.....
    An odd riposte
     
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    Blair was as Thatcherite as they come. Thatcher called him her greatest triumph. The last Labour Govt was 1974 until Callaghan took over.
     
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    Not really Blair's government's were moderate for sure and the early years were very good for working people. Government's need to be progressive not backward thinking.
     
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    https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/27451/economics/uk-pension-spending-of-gdp/

    Most people will pay in far less than they will ever receive. It is not for me to help the rest of you.
     
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