Matt Murray, Nike Academy

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday I saw some video's with him when he was in a previous role with Nike Academy. It seems it's a really good place to learn.

    Some of the video's I saw which made me think was a couple of goalkeeper drills. Do Barnsley do this? with not just the youth goalkeepers but the first team players.

    The one vs one battle where you are going to get knocked.

    Feet movement and basics in communication.

    Also another one. . Wonder if the club can get former top pro's in to help individuals. Get someone like Joleon in for a week and get him to be a one of one coach to say Linsey.

    I'm not sure if people will like this but just something I thought about. I look at the coaching staff and theres not a wow in the lot maybe apart from Matt Murray for me. He's the one I remember been a very good player. Looking at it Jamie Clapham might have been a decent player but I can't remember him say at Ipswich.
     
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    Why do coaches need to wow? Most of the best had mediocre careers at best.....
     
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    Yes good point I remember Jose Mourhinho when he won the Ballon D'or.
     
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    Why not? it's something different.

    In others sport they do it. Murray's most successful time was under Ivan Lendl. The most successful former pro he had coaching him.

    When Stones signed for Manchester City, He said he wanted to sign for PEP because of the person he was and what he had done.
     
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    I'll never forget the time that Arsene Wenger scored a hat trick overhead kicks in the world cup final.
     
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    Matt Murray had a good career as a player but no better than Jamie Clapham or Paul Heckingbottom, in my humble opinion.

    Your “wow” factor appears to relate to perceived on field success but as insinuated above, success on the pitch as a player doesn’t necessarily translate to success off it as a manager or a coach.

    Some of the worst managers and coaches I’ve seen had the best careers as players.
     
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    Bryan Robson and Gianfranco Zola are 2 that spring to mind
     
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    Surely that’s in relation to Pep’s managerial career? Why would Stones be swayed by Pep’s career as a central midfielder? He was good but he certainly wasn’t sensational.
     
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    Absolutely.

    There are so many excellent footballers who simply couldn’t replicate their on field success when they were handed managerial or coaching responsibility.

    Ince, Keane, Inzaghi et al. All players with stellar careers. The list goes on.
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Can I just say it was an idea.

    Second of all I think Roy Keane would be great to have come in for a week to work with some of the midfielders but that would never happen. I think you could see his influence Hourihane on in the way he acts away from the pitch and maybe on it. This allows me to put a lie told about me recently on here again. I've never said I thought Hourihane was ''****'' and if you think I have then prove it.
     
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    Managing and playing are two separate things.... Wenger Mourinho Ferguson and many others who didn't wow whilst playing show that!
     
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    I'd have thought all clubs did similar stuff. They all do coaching badges together to get these jobs.

    It's a bit like trade apprenticeships teaching all the young lads the same way.
     
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    Can I ask what you find to be "wow" about Matt Murray's career.

    Don't get me wrong, Matt was a good goalkeeper.

    But in his 12 year pro career, he amassed less than 90 football league appearances.

    Some of that was to do with injury, but I can't help but think you can't see past his work for Sky.
     
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    We once had Ian rush coaching our strikers. The lack of success tells you all you need to know about that.
     
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    I think most things in football are down to pure luck mate.

    Everything can't work for everyone or we'd all be perfect.
     
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    It's alright Ian, we don't blame you.
     
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    We've got Bobby Hemsey does not "wow" you?
     
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    I'm struggling to think of any top English ex-pro who has had a successful top flight managerial career in the last 20 years. Most seem to give it a go and turn out to be *****.
     
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    You’re clearly confusing me with someone else as I haven’t got the faintest clue as to what you’re talking about.
     
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    Who is this Matt Murray - I have never heard of him?
     

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