Hecky is not the brilliant manager people have built him up as

He's made a lot of mistakes and some absolutely baffling decisions and yet some still single him out as the best manager ever. He certainly isnt.

However neither is he a crap manager. He is a good manager who is still learning and has been treated extremely poorly by the club. Extremely poorly in that he has had most of us assets sold from under him and replaced with far cheaper inferior quality replacements and to make matters arse those who made the decisions have all gone into hiding ever since. He has been thrown under the bus because decisions have been made and never explained and so he takes the blame for things that aren't his fault.

Now I can fully understand why Patrick has been quiet for the last year but in my opinion other people should have stepped up and they didn't, they hid. Patrick took extra blame and hecky had to deal with the crap while one continued to enjoy boardroom facilities, one buggered off to another club without having the balls to even acknowledge us and the other was seemingly too busy defending paedophiles and football clubs who operate outside the FFP to our detriment. It's been a shambles and the two who care the most have been the fall guys, particularly hecky.

How can anyone be expected to learn their trade (which hecky is still doing) when all your hard work is binned and you are asked to start again all the time? He may never improve, he may go backwards but unless we have him a year where he can spend anywhere near a reason amount of money to replace the assets he had taken from him and a year to work with a settled squad then you simply can't judge him and doing so would be extremely short sighted.

Back him fully this month, let him get the players that HE wants in regardless of if they are 13 or 31 and let him build HIS team not the team that a computer spreadsheet says will be the best to rip from under his feet again

 

He has had a good 12 months followed by a poor 12 months.
The good 12 months coincided with a good set of players, most of, if not all who were here before he took over.
The poor 12 months coincided with those players leaving.
Its not rocket science to realise why things have gone wrong but its also foolish to believe that hecky is some sort of footballing messiah based on a good season with players that were already here.
I don't want hecky sacking and hope he is given time and resources to sort it out but its not hard to understand why some fans have concerns.
The change of ownership is hopefully what hecky needs to put the doubters to bed but it might also be the stick that people ultimately use to beat him with if nothing changes


(copy and pasted from a previous thread, might make more sense on his thread)

 

And let him know he's got another season and a half in the job, no matter what.

 

No. By saying he has a season and a half of being backed. Obviously it isn't no matter what and no manager n any profession is ever given that assurance. If we sacked him today and employed Barry chuckle on a 2 year contract then is Ng your logic it would be saying he has 2 years no matter what

 

Well by saying he has a season and a half of being backed, he must be still here to benefit from being backed.

 

And as I just said that isn't unconditional. If he suddenly starts playing Davies up front and isgrove in goal he should be sacked. I'm saying he should be backed REASONABLY. And that is something I don't think he has been yet for one reason or another

 

Well then you're saying he could be sacked at any minute, if in the boss's opinion he isn't doing the job.

 

Hecky in.

 

I agree with what you say. Hecky has had a raw deal. Team sold from beneath him. Needs to be supported and allowed to bring in his own players whether on the spreadsheet or not

 

He would make a good coach but I don't think he is a manager yet. I think that if we had a chairman that had his eye on the ball and unfortunately not on his health he would have been down the rd months ago .i think the new regime must be thinking of a change to save there investment. Our form at the moment is shocking and we will be looking at relegation in a few months.....a new start fo manager and players is needed ....Is that why we haven't moved on players yet....are we waiting for a new man.

 

Newsflash; he is Head Coach not Manager.

 

Go then. Given that you've brought it up, here's an opportunity for you to list the difference in responsibilities between a head coach and a manager. Let's hear it, cos I need to be educated.

 

Biggest difference is the Head Coach doesn’t get to pick which players should be on the target list.

 

You say that, but Cryne could have pulled the plug on little Lee when he was doing badly in a lower division with better players at his disposal. He didn't, and it worked out for the best.

If "the plan" is going to stay as is, then whoever is in the managers seat will struggle. It's in its infancy, and now being tested at a very good level, and it's struggling.

 

I enjoy your stuff, and I believe that your heart is in the right place, but if you ignore the balance sheet, you are missing half the story.

The players who were sold, were sold because they would not extend their contracts. They did not sign new contracts because they intended to leave anyway when their contracts ran out and calculated that they would do better financially if their new club did not have to pay a fee for their services. When there was no money for new players, I for one would have been on here telling anyone who was willing to listen how badly the club was run, and how they should not have turned down the fees when they were on offer. They sold those players because they had no choice. Now I know that you will argue that we have not spent all that money and that the bits that we have spent has bought us inferior players. That is true, but before you level your gun barrel at those you think are responsible, you should ask yourself why. It is just not true that the people who ran our club are incompetent, that they deliberately left our Chief Coach in a mess. They did not. They looked at the transfer fees that are needed to recruit from the Championship, they looked at the increased wages they would have to pay, they thought about the wedge that any disparity would drive between the existing players and the new players, and the effect on team morale that it would have. Even those things did not swing the decision against buying Championship ready players. The thing that swung it was the knowledge that even the sudden windfall of cash that we got was not sufficient to pay the both the transfer fees and the increase in the wage budget for the full duration of players' contracts. I do not call into question the integrity of our old management team. They clearly did not have the amounts of cash necessary to compete at Championship level, and that is the only thing they a guilty of.

I dislike losing every week just as much at anybody else, but I knew that when I chose Barnsley, I was not choosing a team that could possibly compete at the top levels. I did so in the full knowledge that we would sell our better players, and that we would use that money to fund trading losses. It has always been to case, and generally the club performs beyond what the rest of the country expects. I am grateful for the good times and fearful of the bad. But I keep the faith and I do not play the blame game, and that is especially true when the blame game involves our chief coach, who clearly is not at fault for current performances. I do not play the blame game because my years of supporting the club have been a constant cycle of good times and bad, and that cycle will continue no matter who you think is to blame.

 

No choice you say but I say Marc Roberts.

Someone thought it was easy to replace assets cheaply. It isn’t.

 

OK.

Does he get to say whether we take a particular player or not?

 

To be honest, I know nothing about the Marc Roberts situation, but I am not sure that you do either. I have read lots of stuff on the BBS about how he never wanted to leave and was forced out of the club, but I do not know what is true because I was not there, I was not part of the discussions and I was not part of the decision-making. I simply choose to back the people who are running my club and go along with their decisions. I do that because I trust their judgement and I understand their motives.

 

And Scowen and probably Watkins

 

I can guarantee you he didn’t want to go and wanted to stay.

The offer was accepted because it was seen as the right time to sell as at the end of the new contract period he’d be 29 and have little or no ( or much less) re-sale value and it was felt easy to replace him. This mentality can be applied to other players too

Cost of everything, value of nowt.