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  1. DON

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    personally I don't think we have a good stable side ..we are boys against men at the moment and more often than not we are being run ragged by tough hard fighting teems who have a stable team. Can anyone remember when we had the same eleven players on the field two weeks running. I know sometimes there is no option but we sometimes seem to have a team of kids (good kids but kids) led by a young management team who don't have the knowledge or tacktical sense to alter things when its not going to plan
     
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    Like Wolves did? Oh, wait...
     
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    You did say that though. I agree that spending money does not ensure promotion etc, but you already know that because I said it in my post. Every time someone on here says maybe we should spend a bit more on players, we get the same ballox about us going down and we cant afford it !!
     
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    Did we win that match ? oh no silly me.
     
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    Ambition is a dirty word on here Mark. Cryne's tenure has seen to that.
     
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    I didn't. I said, in response to another poster saying we should throw 6 million at it to stay up, spending outside of your means doesn't guarantee safety.

    You said: Why do people always expect us to go down if we spend money ?

    Which I didn't say. They're not anywhere near the same.
     
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    And if we spent that AND went down, then we'd be in a right mess.
     
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    Yes. There's no guarantee we'd stay up even if we spent 6 million. I didn't say we would go down, I'm saying there's no guarantee we'd stay up.
     
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    Which is what I said, you are the one that says we could go down, which is the standard reply to anyone that suggests buying a player for over £250K
     
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    But we could
     
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    But we might not !!
    I know that the common train of thought on here in the last several seasons is one of doom and gloom, but why do we have to just straight away think of going down ? Why not aim higher and just try not to be so bloody gloomy ! we can compete at the higher end of this league, but we need to increase the quality of the squad, not by spending multi millions on a player, but if we only ever aim to pay peanuts, then we will never improve.
     
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    My problem is that everyone wants success straight away. The club have formulated a plan to make us self sufficient. It hasn't worked well over the last few seasons after initially getting us back to this league, but the promise is that we'll increment what is available for transfer once the club has become commercially more successful. As it stands, I don't think we'll go down this year, although we do need to strengthen. We'll be in a position in the summer though where few (if any) of our first team will be out of contract, meaning for the first time since 2015, we'll be able to concentrate on strengthening without having a squad decimated. I am not 'being all doom and gloom', I'm looking at it in a more patient manner. We don't have to risk our future for a short term gain when a plan is already in place to bring success in the long term.

    And you can word it however you like, but I haven't said we'll get relegated if we spend money. You're looking for something that just isn't there. The fact is, you can spend 50p or 50 million, neither guarantee success or failure, that's the point I'm making. Wolves are getting out of this league paying over 50k a week on wages, it's only a few years since they were relegated whilst paying Jamie O'Hara and Roger Johnson 50k a week. Quality doesn't have to cost the earth. At the same time, some really bad footballers have cost clubs a fortune.
     
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    That is not what you said though, you ONLY mentioned failure, just like 99% of the posters on here. My point was not only aimed at you, it was a general point to the 99%
     
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    In response to a poster who only mentioned spending £6million to guarantee Championship safety. I think you've maybe misread the context of my post, as I'm generally not a negative contributor. Ask Conan.
     
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    No, we took a point from the Champions elect and kept a clean sheet, so what's your point?
     
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    I am absolutely certain you can see my point ! we did not win !
     

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