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In your opinion?

I have my own opinions such as it was because of managers signing mates (or their agents players) and then the squad churn when said manager was sacked

Not to mention wanting to bring money in to reduce reliance

 

Yeah that was part of it. Players coming for a final pay day.

Majority of players signing only to leave of frees after not contributing much.

There’s a lot to it.

Like I said hopefully they’ll be a book.

 

Maybe. I guess it will have had to have been written before this weeks sad sad news

 

I know he was writing one. We will see. Patrick alluded to telling us more in his final program notes.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he finished his book.

 

He's not a key player for Leicester he's a squad player. Yes, he's been injured and not had much game time but he's far from a key player. I work at the side of a Leicester fan who follows them, he told me about Matty James before we had signed him and the rumours that they would be recalling Harvey Barnes. Of course Matty James is out of our range on loan now, he's in the Leicester squad when fit, he wasn't out of reach last season and that's what l stated. It's last seasons Matty James we should be looking at, if you want to give me the list of available loans that Hecky's probably been given l could pick you out a few players. Ones who may need a bit of fitness to get them up to speed if they're out injured or on the fringe of squads. This looks like another Thiam signing that needs to get used to the country, culture, a young player settling in and then having to get up to speed with the English game all those factors to contemplate with a foreign signing in contrast to an English loan that would only need match fitness and that's if it's due to Injury.

 

He is a key player. Plays most games when he’s fit. Certainly not just a squad player.

 

Wrong. When's Silva's up to speed Matty will find his appearances limited.

 

He’s a key figure. When he’s fit and firing he starts.

 

Righto.

 

Info @RMCsport: @ Manzala_7 will leave @AmiensSC for @barnsleyfc! Transfer around 1M € for the winger! Contract of 3 years and a half. Medical visit tomorrow.

 

Twitter feed now full of angry French people - seems a good sign!

 

I love how a lot of the people on here daren't even name a player to sign.

Ashley Fletcher went for £6.5m just for some appearances in the prem. Scored one goal for West Ham and suddenly the people crying out for experienced signings say he is a good fit. He didn't score loads in league one and in championship he has scored as many own goals as goals in the right end if I'm correct. So imagine we might only make a signing for £1.5-2m at max if like the owners said, that there will be nothing drastic to how things will be run still. Fletcher is 3-4 times that budget for 2 goals for sides in top 2 leagues (and they were both in the cup). For the budget we hold (assuming its similar to what we have seen in recent times) we might get a decent performing league one player or a bench warmer from a championship side or possibly a player on fringe of making the squad for a premier league side.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having Fletcher if we could afford because you never know, he might come good but then again I wouldn't mind many lower league signings or foreign signings (which I find more exciting). Any signing is exciting for me because you don't know what you are going to get, they may think this is a chance to shine being on brink of catching premier league eyes or they may just not be cut out for it. Look at your Jamie Vardy's and Rickie Lambert's, non-league and lower league players who smashed premier league yet people here are quick to shoot down any lower league purchases because they aren't experienced enough. I think ligue 1 is just as much experience as lower premier league sides or decent championship sides at the worst.

And the way you go on about wanting signings like Harewood and Scotland. I think I would much rather bring in players like Manzala who may turn out to be good championship players adding more excitement to team than players like Harewood who might be retiring season after or be surplus to requirements leaving us to find another player after another player every year. Survival after survival after survival is what we will see signing Harewoods. Get a few more exciting additions like Manzala who can do a trick or 2 and let them develop because once the bulb in their head lights up on how this league works and what it takes to get results then they will hopefully develop together much like the league one play-off winnings side.

Then if the owners are as ambitious as we are hoping then they'll keep the players tied down and only sell when the big bucks are getting thrown at us (very least £5m+), not the usual £1-2 million for our stand out performers.

Edit: Fletcher hasn't scored in the championship so he has scored more own goals in championship than actual goals.

 

This is spot on.

People need to realise that although our owners have big money that doesn't make us able to spend big on 'Championship proven' players. The money is this league now is silly and the cost of proven players in this league is really high as are the wages. Going over seas and to the lower leagues brings much better value for money albeit with slight risk they may or may not be great. More often than not Barnsley have had great success with players in recent times from lower leagues (not so much overseas as we have not really bought from there). Yes we have had some not so good ones but the like of Conor, Winnall, Mawson and Scowen who were great for us all came from lower leagues and became brilliant for us and I like most would take all of those back in a heart beat.

Take the signing of Moore for example, people complained at the rumoured 750k price we paid which at first sounds a lot, but he has a good goal record and ticked a lot of boxes that we needed, a target man that offers us a new option up top. If you take Hugill as an example who is a similar age and also a target man. He has played a few seasons at Championship level now without scoring a tonne of goals either, Preston rejected 8 million in the summer for him from Reading. Also look at Kodjia, Bristol got him for around 2 million I believe from the French league but yet sold him for a reported 15 million after only 1 season in this league.

We need to realise that we can't go out and spend multi millions on lots of proven players just yet so we do need to stick to the current model but hopefully sign slightly higher value targets but also keep them for longer. In time this could change as the club develops but for now we have to keep the faith in Hecky and the board/scouts and trust that they know what they are doing and that who they are bringing in will be right for the side.

 

Why would they if they're not privy to budget, wages, who's available for loan, what % the parent clubs want us to pay etc. Do you think people would just pluck players out of the air? For the record as well l think Fletcher is well out of our price range, even for a loan.

With regards to the budget being the same If this Manzala guys a 1m euro player thats over £1.6m we've spent so far in this window, compared to the last window l'd say the budget's changed. All this is before they've started on the new income streams they talked about at the presentation. Could be a big summer.

 

I was there as well.. they all looked ***** that day.. Norman Hunters debut n'all
Lincoln tho looked decent.. with a strike force of Mick Hartford, Tony Cunningham and a centre-mid with Glenn Cockerill in it All went on to have very good careers

 

we spent well more in summer.

 

Of course we did, we have time to pick and choose in the summer and fees aren't inflated. January transfer window is a different story, so its best to compare the two windows and then in the summer compare that to the previous summer.

 

^^bang on. I find it funny when people say 'meh's or 'underwelmed' at every signing we make and say we need experience as if they have someone in mind. Then when asked to make a suggestion come out with the "well I don't know our budget" cop out. Meaning I don't want to suggest anyone incase it backfires but I'll have a dig at every player we sign.

 

Exactly.

 

Who's had a dig at him? I'm impressed by his Youtube, lets hope he can settle quicker than Thiam and pick up the language.