All these ‘rumours’

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    The tactics didn't help tbh...
     
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    What boils my piss is the fact we have created this scenario by being greedy and cashing in on certain players and not investing part of that cash in players wages without breaking the bank. Id rather have 11 ex company mondeos with a few miles on clock than 25 clapped out fiestas. Adios.
     
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    I do find Hammill's omission from the squad baffling. He might not have produced to the extent he did in league 1 but I can't remember him ever being bad. He draws defenders and for his faults he tries to make things happen. Even if you think he doesn't deserve to start he's a great player to bring on in the second half as in my mind he offers something that noone else on our squad really does. I genuinely can't understand why he would be left out.
     
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    It wasn’t fine in the summer. Far from it
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    ABC.

    That was then. This is now.
     
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    As in recruiting almost exclusively from a lower starting base than the previous lot without one of them having kicked a ball in our present level. For me it was more about continuing to prove the plan right than ensuring we could compete.

    Recruitment in the summer was awful. For the level of player we were determined to bring in we needed to bring 30 players in to get enough good enough often enough. Paul Heckingbottom said often enough that we’d be lucky to get 40% successful- at present it’s closer to 0%.

    I’d have looked to bring in some quality as opposed to quantity. It’s easily forgotten how many players have been discarded on this journey.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    As I posted before on this thread...show how you pointed this out on here before Hecky's departure, and your post slamming him is worthy of respect.
     
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    To be fair to Redrum I know he did call Paul Heckingbottom *****.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    If that was before Hecky left then fair enough. He was then in a minority, which has since swelled immeasurably (probably to a majority on here) since Hecky left.

    By the way I do not begrudge anyone being appalled with the way Hecky naffed off. It was bereft of class.
     
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    Maybe

    I don’t call him *****. Same as I don’t call Morais *****. We don’t have enough good players, all this bluster about tactics and formations is largely irrelevant for me.
     
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    Have you got some examples of the type of player you’re talking about on the sustainable wages we could afford at the time?
    I ask this because when we stay up this season then the level of player on your wish list may be gettable
     
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    Well it is a team game. Our problem I think has been up front. Enough bite and we'd have been ok. We were toothless till McBurnie turned up.
     
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    I’m not privy to player wages but we could have kept Josh Scowen for example but decided not to try as his improvement had plateaued and therefore was not worth investing extra money in. Instead we replaced him with a bloke from...no in fact we didn’t replace him.

    We didn’t even look at players from a better starting base, just arrogantly assumed that we’d be able to get 14 players from (mainly) L2 and lower and they’d be good enough, often enough.

    We could afford to bring 14 players in and thrown away 10 of them at some point so why not bring 6 in and throw away 2 at worst
     
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    We’ve been bab in the nets all season and poor in midfield
     
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    Regardless of whether our squad is good enough (and I don't think it is) Jose's oke koke selection/rotation policy is mental
     
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    Can you confirm if Nick Townsend has indeed broken his hand after thumping a striker he was telling “home truths” to? And if so who was it?
     
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    I watched that too. The one lad seemed pretty confident that Hammill had been training with Doncaster... Not sure where he got that from then?

    Other lad was very negative too, to be fair he made some good points. I think its disgraceful people saying "Jose out" blah blah "Get him the f out of here." He's done no worse than Hecky did
     
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    Thanks for that I was in the minority I think what he did in league one was great. But his tactics this season were too negative for me not convinced by the new lad either but time will tell. And hecky isn't doing great with a team worth over 20 million
     
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    To clarify was it the ‘incident’ where someone’s missus was thanking these nasty folk for getting someone back to London safely or a totally different one.
     
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    That and the fact he wanted to move back down south.
     

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