José Morais appreciation thread

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  1. Fon

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    So you were wrong then.

    Bolton were also below us. As were Hull. We were 19th, 5 points off relegation.

    Wrong again.
     
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    5th bottom then. Still on a horrific run.

    Look, I supported him right to him running away but what good is it doing now saying he’d have done this or that - if he thought he could have done this or that he’d have stayed to clear up a mess partly of his own making.

    You can’t accept that he took that loyal support and pissed down your back so now you want to keep speculating what he would have done when it’s only ever going to be that.

    Morais pretty much has the same players to pick from - only McBurnie has been good enough often enough so far. We’ve scored in all bar one of his 8 games which is much better than before and yet again I say if it wasn’t for abject goalkeeping and defending we’d be breathing easier today

    I don’t know what you think he should have done yesterday but I pretty much think he’d have been wrong whatever as you’ve made your mind up after 8 games. Well less actually and you’re trying to convince folk we are somehow MILES better than we were personal wise when it’s just not true
     
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    Paul Heckingbottom shafted you and threw your loyal support down your throat

    If you want someone to blame, don’t blame Morais blame the former owners
     
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    I've no strong feeling about Hecky - I'm simply comparing him to Morais. I've no emotional attachment to him, like I don't with Morais. Like I don't with Marc Roberts who's also ONEOFAREOWN.

    As much as you and others on here seem to want to push the criticism of Morais as some racial thing, that I don't like him because he's one of them foreigners with slightly brown skin, it really isn't. I just think that the EIGHT ******* MATCHES he has been in charge of have been the worst 8 matches I've seen since probably Spackman. Spackman was a blonde haired Englishman too, which must puzzle you that I'm criticising him too.

    I agree with your assessment on Adam Davies. He's not good enough either. His current form is poor. I can admit that. I'm not daft. He should have saved that looping header yesterday. It just seems that if someone disagrees with your opinion then you shout and swear at them, like a few other aggressive posters do on here - which is making the board a chore to read at times.

    All I'm doing is putting across a point of view that I don't think Morais is up to the job. As you have done with Davies. But you seem to do it in a rather aggessive manner.

    As for Morais. I hope he turns it round. I hope we win all our remaining fixtures. I will happily admit then that I was wrong. I imagine you want the same thing too, but you'd rather we stay up with Davies dropping a clanger in each game to prove your weird point.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    I’ve never mentioned you not liking him cos he’s foreign.

    What’s the weird point I’m hoping to be proved? And what’s aggressive about it? I’ve not shouted at you barring the 8 games point.

    It’s really not been the 8 worst games since Spackman, at all.
     
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    We are going down.

    Jose is a decent coach, but not a fire fighter. Football has largely been an improvement since Head-in-bottom left.
    We are more positive / direct. Unfortunately we largely have the same players, barring the addition of the front 2 & given the loss of Barnes, that isn't a lot.

    Not sure if he is the man to take us up. We have a decent L1 team.
    Who knows? Relegation was worst case scenario, but anybody that isn't stupid can see it is fairly nailed on.

    Failure to sign a decent keeper & instead we sign Tarzan (well Knasmullner, OK). We ain't getting out of the jungle.
     
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    They was no evidence that hecky would have kept us up I'm almost certain we would have been relegated under him. We still may go down.
    When he lost Connor Sam and bree last season he still had a good squad robo yiadom, matty James, josh scowen, ryan Kent, Marley watkins, Bradshaw and still managed only 3 wins from January untill end of season and 2 of those were against relegated teams.
     
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    When Heckingbottom left you said to paraphrase. Sentiment is out of the window from now on I will judge on results.
     
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    Yes I did. I’ll view it at the end of the season . If we’ve gone down there’s a strong case to get shut.

    Don’t see what it gains saying the Leeds Hater would have done x, y, z - he ran off and that’s that

    I did say that the next manager had an almost impossible tasks - poor players and a hurt fan base who want people to blame. Pretty much like the new owners are getting the blame/consequences of the failings of the last.

    I’m guilty of it, as I won’t be renewing until I see what recruitment is like. ***** fan, you betcha. I don’t buy all this bluster about how good we will be in L1, things are never that simple
     
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    I’m not bothered that Hecky left. It happens. I’m bothered we appear to have replaced him with someone less able to get us out of a relegation dogfight.

    Jose if he has come in at the start of the season where he could have stamped his way of playing onto the players and had a say in recruitment may have been a success. To get us out of the crap with an inherited team and little time he seems an awful choice.
     
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    I wonder who could have dug us out
     
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    From what little I know of him, I quite like the bloke. I like his interviews. 4-1-2-3 isn't a formation I particularly favour, but I don't really care that much, I just want to see us win, not play a formation that I think is right. I do think it was very risky trying to adopt that formation so late in the season though, with players who aren't used to it. So far it seems that risk isn't paying off, but there's nothing to say we would have accumulated more points playing a different way. The same old problem of the quality of the squad is still a major factor.

    I don't rate his substitutions though. In three games we've been in front, gone defensive and failed to hold on to the lead.

    The team which finished the game against Milwall was just ridiculous.

    Yesterday, I thought subbing Moncur was a wasted substitution as he was actually having a good game for once, he hadn't tired, he was still effective and had just put one on a plate for Potts. You could argue that Williams was involved in the goal so it was a good substitution, but we may have gone on to score two more had Moncur stayed on the pitch. What we do know is that Potts was out on his feet for the last 10 minutes, shattered and cramping up, we needed a sub for him at that point. And that isn't something that came as a surprise, Potts is strong and powerful but he always seems to tire in the second half. He puts a shift in before that, but he finds it difficult in the last 10 or 15 minutes.

    As much as I think McCarthy has been overlooked, I didn't want to see him on the right side of a front three. It rendered us impotent and if we were to concede we were never going to get another goal. Bradshaw has his faults, but if there's one forward I'd want to bring on in the final 10 minutes when we're a goal up and we need someone to chase down the opposition, it would be Bradshaw.
     
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    Mick McCarthy maybe. Gary Monk?

    I'm not anti Jose, as you probably know, but he wasn't the firefighter candidate.
     
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    And if McCarthy had closed own their player and blocked the cross, instead of just tentatively jogging towards him, it would be a different story. We'd now be upbeat celebrating 3 points.
     
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    Doesn’t make it stronger except having one Championship level striker on the books!
     
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    Moncur was knackered. He ran the length of the pitch and was still blowing 5 mins later
     
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    Neither would have come
     
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    Can’t say I know other than Warnock but it’s not our job to know it’s those who make the decisions. Not sure going for someone with no experience of the league or the players and with a poor managerial record was a great idea but as you see the season will show that. If we finish higher than when Heckingbottom left we can see to have chosen wisely below that maybe not.

    I don’t mind Jose he comes across ok in interviews and he’s inherited a poor side. His team selection and tactics ( other than McBurnie as left wing back) seems good to me and we look like scoring more than we did. We are paying for this by looking weaker at the back. His substitutions as Jay says below are pretty poor and generally change the game in a negative way this is perhaps where a lack of knowledge of the league and our players hampers him.
     
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    Generally speaking the subs will be poor cos the “best “ we have are on the field...
     
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    If Mick McCarthy was here doing exact same as jose with the exact same points total people would be blaming the players and no blame would have been placed on MM by 90%
     

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