Spice

My sister in law works with young adults, some who have come out of prison, some who have been sleeping ruff and others who are life’s waifs and strays, she’s encountered the eruption of spice on the streets of Barnsley for a few years now, readily being bought over the counter in a shop on the outskirts of town (I believe it no longer sells this), she told me that some of here residents are being issued with methadone, the heroin substitute to try to wean people of spice, this is how potent it is.

The authorities are well and truly up against up, worrying times of you ask me. We can’t jail them as there ain’t enough room, you can’t put them down cos that’s just inhumaine (although some would revert to this if you ask me) you can’t offer them work as there unfit to do so........so what do you do with them?? For me the problem needs stopping far far earlier down the chain, people found to be dealing such drugs need minimum sentences of let’s say 15/20 years then those selling may think twice about it, giving them 2 year suspended and some hours is pointless.

Whilst I think many Middle East countries have draconian punishments in place for guiltily offenders a bet people think twice before they do out wrong, our country is open to do the hell you want cause the penalties are so poor.

 

Oh to live in the crime- free Middle East eh.

 

Hang around near the drop in centre on Pitt St (in the lower level of old panama joes) and you will see all these people getting their free meals and handouts then they deal and take the stuff right outside. It's become a drop off point for the dealers.

 

Have you informed the police ?

 

Did I say it was crime free?

 

My first encounter with this Spice, was around 18 months ago.
I was driving through Bentley, Doncaster where I saw a young lad (and by young, I'd guess 13 tops, he even had Superman trainers on) flaked out on the footpath, literally feet away from where my friends daughter was killed, by a car, 3 years earlier.
Several cars drove straight by him, but I couldn't just leave him, thinking he'd been knocked over.
I asked his name, and if he had a phone so I could call his Mum, before I called an ambulance. He wasn't bleeding or anything so was safe to say he'd not been hit by a car.
He was mumbling "Leave me alone. I've got chest pains. Just leave me!!" At this point I told him I was getting him an ambulance, to which he sprung to his feet, called me a lovely person, and sprinted off like lightning.
At this point, a woman came out of the shop, opposite (used to be The Drum pub) and told me he's like it everyday, on the 'Spice'.
I was proper gob struck.

 

I'm no expert and I've no idea how the problem can be sorted out, but I really wish they'd ban the expression "legal high" from news articles. To me it just sounds far too fluffy and more like an encouragement. I can't think of a suitable acronym, but "Unclassified **** that might kill you" would be a better description IMHO.

 

Yes what a lovely thought seeing people have their heads chopped off in the street. Dear me holding up the middle east as the bastion of justice. I’ve read it all now.

 

I suggest you read my post again before saying I’ve suggested chopping peoples heads off.....

 

Read it again and chopping peoples heads off comes under the banner of draconian punishments.

 

Medical world calls them New Psychoactive Substances.

 

Draconian is an adjective meaning great severity, that derives from Draco, an Athenian law scribe under whom small offenses had heavy punishments (Draconian laws).

A can’t see where it mentions anything about heads rolling there.

If you wasn’t been such a smart arse you would get my jist that our punishments in this country are far too lenient and maybe if they were more harsh it may stop people in there tracks

 

No.....

 

Doubt if you read my earlier post, but Iran has 5000 dealers on death row and heroin addiction has doubled.

 

So you saying that if we jail all dealers addicts will increase??

I would’ve thought that heroin is more readily available in Iran due to the majority of the core materials coming from that part of the world.

It’s a topic that could go on for ever really with each person having different views on our to tackle the problem

 

In Iran they execute some of them. If you think getting rid of dealers is the answer, then surely that should work? Supply is via dealers.

The real main issue is why people end up like this. That isn't something a 2 line reactionary statement can begin to explain.

 

Police and ambulance are there every week. They will know all about what goes on there. But yeah, we have informed them ok more than one occasion.

 

For every dealer locked away there’s probably 20 waiting to fill there position, I personally don’t think in my lifetime things will change.

Yes you are right In that the main issue is why people end up like that, for some it’s inevitable from the upbringings they’ve had, others make poor decisions, some bow to peer pressure and are gripped and others want to take that road, either Avenue appears very hard to tackle for the authorities.

 

¿For example, when a 73 year old woman is killed in Wombwell by a druggie , summat needs to be done .
Hard drugs are a scourge on working class communities in many ways.

 

Sounds more like a band.
"At number 5 in the John Peel Festive Fifty, it's the debut single from the New Psychoactive Substances..."