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  1. dek

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    utter ******

    i voted brexit and did so drawing on my own reasons after an interest in politics going back to the miners strike and after drawing inspiration from the likes of Dennis Skinner,Arthur Scargill,Bob Crow (rip) Tony Benn (rip) and dozens of other old school union men to whom i looked up to when i was younger..

    you mr bradgate appear to be a stereotypical remainer who points and shouts racism at anyone who voted brexit because they did so alongside the likes of tommy fcukin robinson, when people like you blurt this tripe out your argument is dead imo because no matter what, you will always cut back to the racism crap.
     
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    people like bradgate know very little about socialism mario,they think they do,especially after all the negative brexit stuff flying around but in reality they are just grabbing soundbites from off the internet
     
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    wow thats a good overreaction - Lets be clear there is no connection between wanting to leave the EU and being racist.
    but the racists generally voted leave and felt much more vindicated when they felt they had the country on their side

    Racism is increasing in this country again, its very sad and has coincided with the vote to leave - the two shouldnt be connected but they are
    I agree this thread has got hijacked a bit but you cant consider racism in football without considering it in the context of the country and the sad fact is the tub thumping far right Brexit Torys Farage etc and the right wing Press have been fanning the flames it encourages the attitude and its very wrong

    its also nothing to do with whether we want to be in our out of the EU
     
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    I disagree. I did find it funny Henry Winter tweeting about it but failing to mention it was the paper he works for that was called out on it though. Daily Mail chat plenty of garbage, but I don't get the point Sterling was trying to make. From the two headlines he posted photos of I think the point the media are making is one guy plays first team games to buy their mum a house and one can already afford it without even breaking in to the first team. The stories show that guys earn too much too soon without earning it through being a vital part of the first team. Colour didn't need to be brought in to it.
     
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    I think you are completely missing the point - we have 2 very similar players with similar experience and salary, neither have played in the first team and both bought their mums similarly priced houses.

    one ( who is white) is a young starlet who buys a house for his mum ( aww bless) , the other (who is black) is a footballer on 25K a week despite not playing prem football and splashes out on a mansion.

    if you cant see the difference between "starlett buying a house for his mum" and " Footballer on 25K splashing out on a mansion" then I think there is no help for you
    its exactly the same story but given totally different slant because one is white and one is black

    Its the same with sterling - he seems a genuinely decent guy but compare the adverse press coverage he gets with that of Harry Kane and something is wrong.
     
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    I think you could argue that case if Phil Foden had broken into the first team yet. But he's yet to start a premier league game.
     
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    I also need to carry on over reacting and turning off notifications.

    'No connection' - hmm not sure you really believe that dave, but I'll let you talk it through with that Bradgate individual, good luck though, he appears simple and unable to grasp complex ideas.
     
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    Sterling is seen as a greedy sod who left Liverpool for the cash, has a history of cheating and has a gun tattooed on him. Kane is seen as loyal to Spurs and to his childhood sweetheart.
     
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    Back to the main point of the thread, this guy is a racist, nothing more nothing less. As much as some would like to link it to Brexit it has got nothing to do with Brexit. Racism existed long before and will continue once the whole sorry shambles is over. If he felt empowered by anything to scream his racist abuse then it was probably the pack mentality we all witness at football - the same mentality that empowers the nutters to behave in such an appalling anti-social way at every game.
     
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    Not sure I can defend Bradgate. There really shouldnt be a connection between vote leave and racism but unfortunately in just the same way as there is no connection between being a Barnsley - (or Chelsea) fan and standing with racists at the grounds. We are stuck with them "on our side" even if we dont want them. Why is it racism and football seem quite linked - Ive never seen racism at a rugby or cricket match
     
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    I think you meant portrayed rather than seen

    almost all footballers move around for increased wages - and dont overlook that City had more chance of winning titles, he is no worse a cheat than most other footballers Kane has been known to fall over easily on occasion as well, and the gun has been well explained

    and I see you conveniently overlooked my explanation of the difference between the young white and young black footballers in reply to your post
     
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    One has played a fair few times for the first team and one of them hasn't played at all. Skin colour doesn't have to come in to it. Just as Brexit isn't responsible for the rise in racism that should be a big concern and being in the EU wasn't responsible for bananas being thrown at football players in the 1980s. In or out of the EU we sadly always have these kind of people around who think a backwards way.
     
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    If you are so willfully in denial there is no point continuing this - Ive explained why its racist you refuse to see it as such I cant do more
    Ive never said it was all I've said is the brexit vote to leave gave encouragement to the racists -its a matter of public record that racist incidents have increased since 2016 - its hardly due to brexit itself as we havent left yet but some have taken the referendum result as an excuse to behave badly - that and the media portayal of foreign workers in the right wing press (or non white UK nationals in the case of the Mail)
     
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    I can’t wait for that thread about zonal marking to be connected to Brexit next
     
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    You never but many did. If you fail to see that you are failing to look. It’s a simple fact the vast majority of the far right voted to leave the EU, again I understand you and no doubt millions of other normal folk had other reasons.
     
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    The socialist vote got brexit through. Just about all labour constituencies voted leave. The extremists on the right are a very small minority who don't have any representative in parliament. Racisn is bugger all to do with Brexit. It was present before and is far worse in eu countries than the UK.
     
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    I am not failing to look,but to start calling somebody,(who did vote brexit) simply because the far right voted the same is stupid at best and bang out of order,

    The establishment are pro remain and are happy to go along with this same mantra, thats how out of touch they are, they think giving assurances about 'the free movement of people' answered the call of the 17.5 million who voted leave. I'd also hazard a guess that many remain voters feel the same, well they all need to readdress their perceptions because they are wrong and the reasons for leaving are being vastly under estimated,regardless of what the guardian or other remain institutions think.
     
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    When I went to burton in 2015 there were guys behind me who spend most the match coming up with various comments over the linesman and the black players of Burton.

    At Aston Villa, too many folk took great delight in sounding like a swarm of baboons cos the black steward told someone to sit down.

    Last season some lovely person got ironed out in the ponty for abusing some kids mixed race missus.

    Charlton away this year some silly old lovely person getting called out for it. Sat there looking sheepish before ******* off.

    Shrewsbury, we’d signed a new player Coonvare according to the two kids next to me.

    Accrington the same was called an Ape.

    Sunderland didn’t hear a peep...but the stall was set out from kick off.

    My missus has someone behind her in the ponty who pronounces Thiam and Cavare as Black ******* etc.

    They aren’t all Tommy Robinson fans.

    Some of the bright sparks above are lefty die hard labour with strong union links

    Some were blokes who should have known better but had a sniff of a barmaids apron and couldn’t handle it

    Some were just kids trying to be clever.

    Some no doubt will be Struggling with the concept of a black player.

    There’s alsorts of backgrounds and political beliefs behind the people who come out with such insights so to push the blame towards Brexit and reading the daily mail makes you daft as those frothing at the mouth at the game.
     
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    Whatever you feel it is or what someone called you (not me I might add but you failed to acknowledge that in your haste to rant) it’s a fact that happened. If you feel it isn’t then you vastly underestimate it also. The remain institutions and establishments are part of the problem, the vote to leave was a protest against what? I’d start by looking closer to home at our own government

    And that bloke who abused sterling deserves everything he gets and more!
     
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    nobody has called me anything,I was replying to a comment posted by the bradgate poster,whoever he/she is.,I both quoted the post and referred to the poster by name.My post was not a 'rant' either

    i've never said anything about a 'protest' either,not sure what you are referring to there?

    As for that bloke who abused sterling,i'd jail him.

    in case you missed bradgate's post,here it is.,he directed this at another poster,who, incidently, voted leave



    ''Sterling gets racially abused and the person you feel sorry for is yourself. Not that you're self-centred, thin-skinned or in denial.

    When you voted for Brexit you did so alongside members and supporters of the BNP, NF, Britain First and other right-wing nutjobs.

    There was a similar incident at Hearts at the weekend. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46500299

    The people who did it were emboldened by Tommy Robinson being up there last weekend to support Rangers. Yesterday Robinson was with UKIP on a Brexit demonstration in London.

    All the racist far-right support Brexit. You're just too pathetic to admit you've stood alongside them.''
     

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