I've seen loads of Brexit posts on here recently and lots of debates on the positives and negatives of a possible new referendum. Just out of curiosity how would everyone now vote (and how did you previously vote - to see how many have changed their minds)?
I'd vote to Leave this division without the second referendum of the play-offs. Freedom of movement to the Championship in (Theresa) May is one of my red lines. I hope that would mean no vote of confidence in Herr Stendel.
Don't think many would change their minds, just strongly believe that the complacent would actually turn out and vote if there was another referendum.
I'm not seeing my option of "Will not vote (didn't vote before)" The authorities won't let me vote on stuff that actually matters.
Was on the fence while entering the voting booth, I voted remain because I thought it would be easier. I now would vote leave.
I'm a massive remainer... but I'd vote leave this time. Not because I'm Eurosceptic in any way, but because I think having multiple referenda on the same issue until you get the 'right' result undermines the principle of law and the confidence of future referenda. I'd do it with a heavy heart.
Agreed. It's good to have a wide range of topics discussed on here, but it would be nice to go back to the days when it was mainly to talk Barnsley Football Club.
Its your choice but the problem for me with your logic is the original was a flawed ballot - it had criminal influence from right wing pro brexit sponsors, and it although giving a choice or remain or leave had no framework defined for leave. Even ignoring the criminal influence the process has hardly been democratic since the fact that May has come up with a deal that absolutely no one supports because the negotiation path was set by a small group and not in any form of democratic consultation - in fact she explicitly excluded parliament from having an influence I think a reasonable position would be to extend A50 and properly work out an agreed leaving plan - but to say is democtatic to follow a path that hardly anyone wants to "safeguard democracy" is a little strange.
Surely not voting would be the better way to show your unease about the process? you cant take issue with a vote by then actually voting as it makes you part of your own perceived problem not a solution, to something you have a problem with?
I voted remain but I just want them to crack on , just to see what the wonderful world of Brexit really looks like .
But how do you guarantee a new referendum won't be corrupt ? we could go on forever . It should have been a cross party Brexit withdrawal from the start . 1 against 27 ain't got no chance but 7 against 27 would have stood a better chance .
Unfortunately with or without criminal influence, it was still a referendum that made it to the polls and the public did vote. I would worry that going against that would cause further division and would undermine every public vote from now on. I don't want to see every future referendum tainted by the thought of "if we don't get the right result we'll do it again" - even if that's just in the minds of the uneducated. As a bit of background, my American wife was deported from the UK by Theresa May's Home Office when she was 7 months pregnant with our son despite speaking native English, claiming nothing from the government and having UK-recognised qualifications. I have a hand-signed letter from Theresa May via Dan Jarvis (who was very helpful) telling me that I'm too poor to fall in love with someone who's foreign (need £62.5k in the bank apparently) and that I should divorce her. I despise that woman with every fibre of my being. It was only the European Union that stepped in and allowed me to live in the UK with my family, hence my remain vote. I am just worried that going back on such a public vote would cause our country more harm than good. The economy isn't the main concern for me - it's the fact that this whole debacle is tearing us apart socially, and I think that honouring the initial vote is less dangerous than completely and permanently alienating those who voted against my viewpoint. I think we need to find a deal that allows us to retain as many rights and benefits as we can whilst placating those who do have legitimate concerns about many aspects of the EU. It's a fine balancing act and I wouldn't want to be the one with it on my shoulders. TM can still burn in Hell though.
Same as it looks under the heel of the EU. Cos we're not anywhere and never were. The only thing that will come out of this is you'll never get a vote on pet worthwhile ever again. Cos you can't be trusted.
The only way to 'crack n' is to revoke article 50. This **** will drag on for the next decade otherwise.