Any Moore update from presser?

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  1. hor

    horsforthtyke Well-Known Member

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    Presume the big man won't be involved at the weekend?
     
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    Same news as last week, misses Saturday under 2 weeks concussion protocol, will assess after that... not much detail really
     
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    Think he will be in the squad.
     
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    He can't play on Saturday.
     
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    Be careful about who you take issue with Mario.
     
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    With all these name changes I can't keep up. Anyway I'm only repeating what Mr Tonge said so he can take the flak.
     
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    Thought it was quite telling when he spoke about Bahre during the interview and in relation to taking his chance now that Keiffer is out of the team that he will now have a run of games to try and keep the shirt to the end of the season. Sounds to me Kieffers injury might be worse than we are actually letting on.
     
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    tobyornottoby Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps Gally could post a thread with a list advising us who posters were named before, and who they are now.

    I'd be on it.
     
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    I can’t remember a poster called “on it” must be getting old :)
     
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    Last week it was spoke of that it didn't seem likely Moore would play at Pompey. If he couldn't play for protocol they would have come straight out and said it, which to me says there is a chance for this weekend although slim.
     
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    Are Protocol in for Kieffer? When does their transfer window close?
     
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    Isn't his 2 weeks up on Saturday, hope he's on the bench at least.
     
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    Have I read this before somewhere?
     
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    He said he wouldn’t play at Pompey.
     
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    Do keep up.
     
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    It's like when you book your holidays - trying to work out which day you come home on a late flight.
     
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    That was my sense too.....

    I’m not confident he will be back any time soon to be honest - I just have a bad feeling - but maybe I am being too pessimistic
     
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    I’m as pessimistic as they come. If we are winning 3-0 with 5 mins to go I’m still convinced we will mess it up.

    I just think if all was ok we would have seen pics of him in training etc.

    Think we have become very guarded around any updates regarding injuries hence all the 2 week stuff when Woodrow was coming back from injury.
     
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    The FA's protocol on concussion states that the initial rest period starts 'at midnight on the day of injury'.

    It then depends if Kieffer's deemed to be on the Standard or Enhanced Care Setting Pathway to return.

    The Standard Pathway actually requires a minimum 18 days before a player can return to play. This comprises of phase 1 which lasts 14 days and then phases 2-5 which gradually increase the level of training/exercise that a player can get involved in. Each of phases 2-5 must last a minimum of 24 hours.

    The Enhanced Care Pathway requires the player to follow 1 day of phase 1 rest, plus phases 2-5 as per the Standard Pathway which again must last a minimum of 24 hours, minimum 5 days in total. The whole process must be supervised by a suitably qualified doctor and exhibit all of the following:-

    The minimum criteria for an Enhanced Care Setting are as follows:
    1.
    There is a doctor with training and experience in the management of concussion/traumatic brain injury in
    sport available to closely supervise the player’s care and GRTP, and clear the player prior to RTP.
    2. There is a structured concussion management programme in place for the player as outlined below:
    a. baseline SCAT3 and/or computerised neuro-psychometric/cognitive testing of the player has been
    conducted prior to the injury
    b. Clinical serial multimodal assessment of the player occurs post-concussion to guide the recovery protocol.
    Acknowledging that more than one area of brain function can be affected by concussion, this will involve
    formal documented assessment of areas such as cognitive function, emotional wellbeing, neurological
    function and any physical trauma sustained
    c. A formalised GRTP programme with regular SCAT3 or equivalent assessments is followed and recorded in
    the player’s medical records
    d. The player has access to a multi-disciplinary team including neuropsychology / neurology / neurosurgery
    specialists and other clinicians as required to supervise the return to play and instigate any treatment or
    investigation required should the RTP progression not be straightforward
    e. A formal and documented concussion education programme exists for coaches and players in the club
    or team involved
    If any element of the above criteria is absent, the player should follow the standard Return to Play Pathway.

    Therefore if Kieffer is on the Enhanced Care route he could be back but if he is on the Standard Pathway he can't play until next Thursday regardless of how he is feeling.

    http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/pdf/my-football/the-fa-concussion-guidelines-2015.ashx
     
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    Only my opinion, but I still think what we were told on the evening of his injury was correct.
     
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